Aiming/Sighting Consistency

[Byrom]

As i understand it from others, you shoot aimlessly with little attention to direction.

I trust their judgement.

As I understand it Terry can make centuries on the big table and this kid OmaMiesta can make 50 plus easily so they do pay attention to direction - you on the other hand got lost on your way to the wind up fair.

[Hello, Mr Big Shot]

i a comp when a pro pool player hears your a snooker player he slides off to the loo too answer the growl of his guts going brown source

Lol. All pool players LOVE playing snooker players. They tend to think they can play from the off. It's such fun to blow holes in their pomposity. They don't understand it takes years to learn patterns and how to use spin correctly.

Pool is the opposite of snooker. Pool appears easy at first but you see how difficult it is the more you play it. Snooker seems impossible as a beginner but becomes much easier once you've learned to cue.

If i had a quid for every mediocre snooker player who thought he'd give pool a try and be a superstar over night, only to slink off back to the safety of the snooker hall after having his arse handed to him by someone who has actually learned the game, I'd be a very happy man. They remind me of the ugly bloke who got lucky one night and pulled a stunner. Then, when inevitably dumped shortly after, tells all his friends she was either crazy or a lesbian, and bigger, fatter birds were more to his liking anyway.

[Hello, Mr Big Shot]

As i understand it from others, you shoot aimlessly with little attention to direction.

I trust their judgement.

As I understand it Terry can make centuries on the big table and this kid OmaMiesta can make 50 plus easily so they do pay attention to direction - you on the other hand got lost on your way to the wind up fair.

What does terry have to with my reply to omamiesta?

[DeanH]

What does terry have to with my reply to omamiesta?

sorry but your reply included a quote of Terry's post as well as Omamiesta's, so an easy mistake/assumption to make. only my opinion

[Hello, Mr Big Shot]

I thought I would just ignore this thread but I think there are just 2 questions we need to ask to resolve whether snooker or pool is the most difficult discipline.

The first is this...when Alison Fisher, Karen Corr (and a third I can't remember the name of) went from playing woman's top-level snooker in the UK and moved to the States to play on the US Woman's Pool Tour they dominated the circuit for over 5 years, winning virtually every tournament they entered.

The second is this...the money available to players on the pro snooker tour is one hell of a lot more than is available on the world pro pool tour, of that there is no doubt. If, as Big Shot says, pool is a lot tougher than snooker then why don't we see more pool pros entering Q School to get their pro snooker ticket. As far as I know only Cory Deuel (sp?) and Alex Pagulayan have tried it. Cory is a top pool player however in Bulgaria at the IBSF World Snooker Champs he managed to win only one match in his round-robin group and that was against a very young player from the Ukraine. Alex, on the other hand, started with snooker and became a very good snooker player and then switched to pool where he has won the World 9-ball and I believe the world 10-ball a little more recently. He has also won the Canadian Snooker Champs twice.

We see a few snooker pros move to pool and usually do well but I've never seen a pro pool player switch to snooker and do well. Way back they used to allow the well known pool pros compete in the World Pro Snooker Champs as I remember Steve Mizerac (sp?) did once or twice and he didn't even win a preliminary match and in fact lost by a very lop-sided score.

The proof is there...moving from top level snooker (or even mid-level snooker) to take up pool is something that has been done by a number of players successfully but there has never been a top or medium-level pool player take on snooker and being successful. So which is the more difficult discipline?

Terry

This is a very poorly thought through post, with all points already addressed.

There is only one question you need to ponder. Why is it, when pool is an easy game, don't lower ranked snooker pros who have switched to playing it dominate. If it is so much easier, the top 50 pool players would all be ex snooker players. If snooker players are so good and pool players so bad, it would be a breeze.

That is your perception of the two games, is it not? Then explain this conundrum to me. Why do average snooker players make average pool players?

The problem here is, you're judging the very best snooker players against mediocre pool players (or yourself, even). This is a misjudgement and a game we can both play. Lower rank snooker players are capable of SHOCKING play, but we tend to focus only on the top few. Judge the pool world by the same criteria and you'll find an equal number of fantastic, unbeatable players.

A point you lot consistently miss bears repeating: top snooker players will never compete with top pool players. Top pool players will never compete with top snooker players. They are equally talented in their respective disciplines, so what does that tell you about relative difficulty?

Answer these questions honesty and you will understand the debate a little better.

[Hello, Mr Big Shot]

What does terry have to with my reply to omamiesta?

sorry but your reply included a quote of Terry's post as well as Omamiesta's, so an easy mistake/assumption to make. only my opinion

Yeah, but is was pretty obvious who i was talking to, wasn't it?

[Hello, Mr Big Shot]

I thought this by BigShot was the point...'As you mention chris, it is his opinion 9 ball is harder to master than snooker. Having played a fair bit of both, although to nowhere near the same level, i concur. Snooker is relatively easy once you learn how to cue a ball, with repetition and consistency paramount.

Having played both I found just the opposite is true, but if I missed the point then what IS the point?

Terry

Your being trolled

Educated. The word you are looking is 'educated'. And not a moment too soon some might say.

[guernseygooner]

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[Terry Davidson]

Educated. The word you are looking is 'educated'. And not a moment too soon some might say.

Which 'some' would say that?

I also had another thought (and I think vmax has already tried it with 2-1/16" pool balls). Take the six colours and 3 different shaded cueballs and call them 8, 9 & 10 (for 9 balls altogether) and rack them in a diamond on the pink spot on a snooker table and then just smash the crap out of them and see how many pool players could do those magnificent clearances you go on and on about. Chances are there would be no fluked balls on the break and now they would be in trouble if they left the yellow on and their opponent was a good snooker player.

But I suppose you will argue that the pool pro with the really good break could figure out a way to fluke a ball and end up with a decent shot at the yellow ball and go on to clear the table time after time...NOT. (I'm seriously thinking about that 'ignore' button now.)

Terry

[itsnoteasy]

I must say in your last few posts you have killed this nonsense stone dead for me Terry, good posts.

[Ramon]

Lol. All pool players LOVE playing snooker players. They tend to think they can play from the off. It's such fun to blow holes in their pomposity. They don't understand it takes years to learn patterns and how to use spin correctly. Pool is the opposite of snooker. Pool appears easy at first but you see how difficult it is the more you play it. Snooker seems impossible as a beginner but becomes much easier once you've learned to cue.

If i had a quid for every mediocre snooker player who thought he'd give pool a try and be a superstar over night, only to slink off back to the safety of the snooker hall after having his arse handed to him by someone who has actually learned the game, I'd be a very happy man. They remind me of the ugly bloke who got lucky one night and pulled a stunner. Then, when inevitably dumped shortly after, tells all his friends she was either crazy or a lesbian, and bigger, fatter birds were more to his liking anyway.

well, this is funny !!!

I really think J6 knows how to use spin Correctly,, do'nt worry about that !!
Mr big shot ,, I think the problem is that you think that the members of this forum (or some of them), Attacking your sport (in this case: US Pool).
Believe it or not,, these guys have years of experience in cue sport (snooker /pool - us pool ...)
You might wanna look at other threads,, advices that they have giveing / the way they look at the game and how many people they have helped.
This is a forum,, you have a right to express your opinion, no doubt about that.
But your judgment is based on a pure misunderstanding. The way I see it,, they tell you the facts, they do not attack you. Personally, I agree with them !! but looks like u do'nt !!!
God bless USA and US pool. I hope this is okey !! Enjoy ur us pool game.

btw,, What you said in your previous post (about clearing the snooker table up with 36 MINI mistakes). I tried it out on the snooker table. I could'nt clear up the table. Still I'm looking for a player who is able to do that . So, if you know someone, Would you be so kind and let me know. I'm always looking for a good player to learn something new !!

[OmaMiesta]

As i understand it from others, you shoot aimlessly with little attention to direction.

I trust their judgement.

I may not be good in snooker but ill definitely give you a run for your money in pool

[OmaMiesta]

As I understand it Terry can make centuries on the big table and this kid OmaMiesta can make 50 plus easily so they do pay attention to direction - you on the other hand got lost on your way to the wind up fair.

No point argueing with him buddy, I used to be like him and advocate pool 100 percent.....until I started playing snooker and realized how much time I wasted. Thankfully I wasnt as hard headed as this guy and succumbed to logic eventually

[Ramon]

I may not be good in snooker but ill definitely give you a run for your money in pool

haha,,, well, the way I see it,, you can play snooker very nice, my friend.
you gonna be a good player !!!!

[OmaMiesta]

haha,,, well, the way I see it,, you can play snooker very nice, my friend.
you gonna be a good player !!!!

With people as kind and supporting as yourselves, id owe it all to that