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  • Originally Posted by Hello, Mr Big Shot View Post
    If it's'common knowledge', name 20.

    Perhaps you mean SOME have switched and made a moderate career at it, the most successful by far being appleton, who was originally an ,er, english pool player anyway.

    Still, the mother of idiots is always pregnant, so they say.
    I'm talking about failed snooker professionals who then play money games at pool and do very well, I couldn't name twenty but I couldn't name one failed pool player who then went on to have any success at Snooker.
    Fwiw I don't favour any game but I know pool is easier to play(not master btw)

    And yes Hello, Mr.Big Shot the mother of idiots is always pregnant indeed
    Last edited by GeordieDS; 31 December 2014, 10:08 PM.
    It's hard to pot balls with a Chimpanzee tea party going on in your head

    Wibble

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    • Originally Posted by DandyA View Post
      my prediction for 2015 is Mr Biggy will have us all playing 9ball pool by the end of the year ... do you think we should start a fan club for him?
      A fan club's a great idea mate. Hope Biggy don't mind me putting up a video on his behalf since he failed to respond to my request

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      • Originally Posted by Hello, Mr Big Shot View Post
        I'm sorry, but i am the only one who has stayed on topic in this thread.

        Narrative and comprehension skills are shockingly bad on this site.

        You lot keep straw manning until you get the answer you want.
        that's because we have'nt seen the light yet, Mr big shot !!!! be patient my friend !!
        Vmax is the only one who has seen the light !! the rest of us are waiting for sum light and salvation !!
        Enjoy 2015 and give us sum time please !!

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        • Originally Posted by Hello, Mr Big Shot View Post
          I hate anything to do with actors playing snooker or pool. I havent seen one yet that wasn't completely ****.

          Diss American pool all you like but leave SVBs break out of it. It's as pure a strike as any shot played by anyone, ever. It really is amazing.
          Finally something we can agree on, SVB is easily the best pool player out there. His break is a masterpiece no doubt. The break is perhaps the only confliction a snooker player would face in the game...however, if they spent a couple months practising it (doubt they would bother) it would be pretty easy to overcome and therefore the snooker player would hold the advantage in potting and tactical play over the pool player. What part of that cant you understand?

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          • Originally Posted by OmaMiesta View Post
            Originally Posted by Hello, Mr Big Shot View Post
            I hate anything to do with actors playing snooker or pool. I havent seen one yet that wasn't completely ****.

            Diss American pool all you like but leave SVBs break out of it. It's as pure a strike as any shot played by anyone, ever. It really is amazing.
            Finally something we can agree on, SVB is easily the best pool player out there. His break is a masterpiece no doubt. The break is perhaps the only confliction a snooker player would face in the game...however, if they spent a couple months practising it (doubt they would bother) it would be pretty easy to overcome and therefore the snooker player would hold the advantage in potting and tactical play over the pool player. What part of that cant you understand?
            The part reflecting reality. No former snooker play has truly mastered he break, certainly not without many years of dedicated practice at any rate.

            Cue power takes time to develop. Snooker players don't have it. A big heavy CB takes a different technique to get moving.

            There are other players as good as or better than SVB - the Ko's, Chang, a host of asian/Filipino players we've probably never heard of...pool is so fractured it's impossible to determine the 'best'.

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            • Originally Posted by vmax4steve View Post
              Originally Posted by Hello, Mr Big Shot View Post
              I hate anything to do with actors playing snooker or pool. I havent seen one yet that wasn't completely ****.

              Diss American pool all you like but leave SVBs break out of it. It's as pure a strike as any shot played by anyone, ever. It really is amazing.
              Sorry but all he does is hit the shot very hard and launches his shoulder, head and body almost into orbit as does so. Nothing pure and no finesse about it at all; everything that's wrong with the pool players cue action is defined in the break shot.

              You're seeing something that isn't really there.

              And The Hustler is a brilliant film because it's not about pool, it's about the human condition and life, pool is merely the vehicle that Fast Eddie has to express his art but he abuses it by hustling for money and comes to that realisation in The Colour Of Money.
              Newman was a great actor and made some superb films, The Hustler was one of them. Should have gotten his oscar for that.
              I think it's more a case of you not seeing the blindingly obvious.

              Your first paragraph is breathtakingly ignorant. If it is so easy, you do it!

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              • Originally Posted by j6uk View Post
                if i was really off it, i'd fan him as long as he was alight
                Aww. I thought we were becoming friends.

                Still happy new year mate.

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                • Originally Posted by GeordieDS View Post
                  Originally Posted by Hello, Mr Big Shot View Post
                  If it's'common knowledge', name 20.

                  Perhaps you mean SOME have switched and made a moderate career at it, the most successful by far being appleton, who was originally an ,er, english pool player anyway.

                  Still, the mother of idiots is always pregnant, so they say.
                  I'm talking about failed snooker professionals who then play money games at pool and do very well, I couldn't name twenty but I couldn't name one failed pool player who then went on to have any success at Snooker.
                  Fwiw I don't favour any game but I know pool is easier to play(not master btw)

                  And yes Hello, Mr.Big Shot the mother of idiots is always pregnant indeed
                  So, the conclusion you've finally stumbled upon is both games are difficult to master if you've come from the other's background, and it's a myth that one is 'easier' than the other? Bravo, sir!

                  Happy new year to you.

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                  • Originally Posted by Ramon View Post
                    Originally Posted by Hello, Mr Big Shot View Post
                    I'm sorry, but i am the only one who has stayed on topic in this thread.

                    Narrative and comprehension skills are shockingly bad on this site.

                    You lot keep straw manning until you get the answer you want.
                    that's because we have'nt seen the light yet, Mr big shot !!!! be patient my friend !!
                    Vmax is the only one who has seen the light !! the rest of us are waiting for sum light and salvation !!
                    Enjoy 2015 and give us sum time please !!
                    Thanks, you too. We'll see...

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                    • Originally Posted by Hello, Mr Big Shot View Post
                      Aww. I thought we were becoming friends.

                      Still happy new year mate.
                      you too biggy, your good to have around

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                      • Well alex pagulynin plays snooker and struggles with the Canadian armatures and with the pro players ranked away down in the 100s. SVB played pool in china verses another fine UK pool player with a snooker technique and solid fundamentals with the name of Gareth potts and SVB lost 15-6 and was missing all sorts of balls as his technique and cue action is so so poor as the table was Chinese 8 ball and the pockets were not buckets. SVB also got his ass kicked in the mosconi cup and has lost like the last 10 times on the spin to dynamite Darran Appleton on the us tour. Mark grey was a former snooker player struggling to make ends meat with snooker and he switched to pool and plays on the euro tour and was ranked number 1 last year or the year before. SVB is not the best player. He has a good break but so what. His kicking game sucks and hit potting is very poor. Appleton,niles fiyen i think are way better than him by quite some way. Just look at the mosconi cup to see the class difference in players. The Americans can't compete and it will be a pasting every year for many years to come. I watched a TAR podcast with shane a few week ago and his cue action is a total horror show.Just look how bad he plays on the 10 foot diamond tables. His long pots are suspect to say the least. Earl beat his ass last year on the 10 foot table because his break does not work on it.

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                        • Originally Posted by Alba_ View Post
                          Well alex pagulynin plays snooker and struggles with the Canadian armatures and with the pro players ranked away down in the 100s. SVB played pool in china verses another fine UK pool player with a snooker technique and solid fundamentals with the name of Gareth potts and SVB lost 15-6 and was missing all sorts of balls as his technique and cue action is so so poor as the table was Chinese 8 ball and the pockets were not buckets. SVB also got his ass kicked in the mosconi cup and has lost like the last 10 times on the spin to dynamite Darran Appleton on the us tour. Mark grey was a former snooker player struggling to make ends meat with snooker and he switched to pool and plays on the euro tour and was ranked number 1 last year or the year before. SVB is not the best player. He has a good break but so what. His kicking game sucks and hit potting is very poor. Appleton,niles fiyen i think are way better than him by quite some way. Just look at the mosconi cup to see the class difference in players. The Americans can't compete and it will be a pasting every year for many years to come. I watched a TAR podcast with shane a few week ago and his cue action is a total horror show.Just look how bad he plays on the 10 foot diamond tables. His long pots are suspect to say the least. Earl beat his ass last year on the 10 foot table because his break does not work on it.
                          Just a note regarding Alex Pagulayan. He has recently won the Canadian Snooker Championships twice and he only entered it twice as his pool commitments sometimes interfere. He has won the world 9-ball champs and I believe the world 10-balls champs. He has entered snooker Q-School twice and came within one match of qualifying for his pro ticket. He has won the Canadian 9-ball and 10-ball champs multiple times in the open (as opposed to amateur) category against other pros, as an example John Morra.

                          So he is a decent player in both categories however compared to the world's best snooker amateurs he isn't quite making the grade but he is practicing his snooker I understand.

                          Terry
                          Terry Davidson
                          IBSF Master Coach & Examiner

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                          • Originally Posted by Hello, Mr Big Shot View Post
                            So, the conclusion you've finally stumbled upon is both games are difficult to master if you've come from the other's background, and it's a myth that one is 'easier' than the other? Bravo, sir!

                            Happy new year to you.
                            Ty I think, All the best to you as well
                            It's hard to pot balls with a Chimpanzee tea party going on in your head

                            Wibble

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                            • Originally Posted by Alba_ View Post
                              Well alex pagulynin plays snooker and struggles with the Canadian armatures and with the pro players ranked away down in the 100s. SVB played pool in china verses another fine UK pool player with a snooker technique and solid fundamentals with the name of Gareth potts and SVB lost 15-6 and was missing all sorts of balls as his technique and cue action is so so poor as the table was Chinese 8 ball and the pockets were not buckets. SVB also got his ass kicked in the mosconi cup and has lost like the last 10 times on the spin to dynamite Darran Appleton on the us tour. Mark grey was a former snooker player struggling to make ends meat with snooker and he switched to pool and plays on the euro tour and was ranked number 1 last year or the year before. SVB is not the best player. He has a good break but so what. His kicking game sucks and hit potting is very poor. Appleton,niles fiyen i think are way better than him by quite some way. Just look at the mosconi cup to see the class difference in players. The Americans can't compete and it will be a pasting every year for many years to come. I watched a TAR podcast with shane a few week ago and his cue action is a total horror show.Just look how bad he plays on the 10 foot diamond tables. His long pots are suspect to say the least. Earl beat his ass last year on the 10 foot table because his break does not work on it.
                              This goes to prove my point. All disciplines require their own skill set, which takes time to learn. Potts, as brilliant as he is, cannot beat SVB at 10 ball on a Diamond table, nor can he beat Ronnie at snooker.

                              But to suggest SVB cant kick and is a poor potter is bizarre. He perhaps does not have the mental game to be considered the very best but that is his only weakness, and virtually everyone has them.

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                              • I want to see Alex make it on the snooker tour. Pool players bring flair and imagination to the table and are great in around the balls and are unpredictable witch i like. I have watched a few of Alex matches of snooker on you tube but the tables were club tables i would like to see him on a tournament table. Terry, John Morra i heard he was a good snooker player also. His father own a pool room or something if i remember correctly? I seen him miss that black ball against Germany in the world cup of pool this year were he had a nightmare and had Alex to thank for keeping them in it till the end. They should have won. I watched that match the other day.

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