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    Can anybody help I struggle to get through the white, if I attempt anything like a deep screw I invariably jump the white, kind regards keith

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    gotta get through this

    I was having a play with screw yesterday seeing what happens under certain conditions. Here is what I found and already knew....

    - As ever you should try to keep the cue as parallel to the playing surface as possible. Be aware if you are jacking up the butt.

    - You don't need to cue as far down as you may think. Work on striking within the 'meat' (the central portion about the size of 2p piece) of the cue ball. Being at the extreme of this means you are pushing the limits of your action, its possible to go beyond but not right now for you. If you aren't getting the desired result think about your delivery timing.

    - Get a feel for the pace required for the desired amount of cue ball travel. When you practice work up from slow pace up through the gears.

    - Power does not come through tightening the grip. Remain loose and relaxed. If you are not sure about this see the Nic Barrow video on this subject where he cues with just a light thumb and index finger grip
    Last edited by Stupree; 31 December 2014, 10:45 PM.
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    • #3
      Get your bridge closer, don't hold the cue so tight and follow all the way through.

      Simple fix

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      • #4
        Thanks I will try to implement your tips, regards Keith

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        • #5
          also lower your bridge, ie flatten your bridge hand ... I also tend to miscue on deep screws and find this helps a lot (as well as the excellent advice above) ...

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          • #6
            Slow and through and build it up like stupree says, timing and technique and you el soon be screw happy.

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            • #7
              gotta get through this

              Most miscues on screw shots from my experience is when the player is not aiming low enough. The player attempts to dip into the bottom of the cue ball during delivery resulting in the miscue. Aim low and strike where you are aiming.
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              • #8
                Flatten your bridge hand, get your index finger to lie flat on the table and then cock your thumb to it. Aim the tip at the lowest part of the cue ball, don't try to hit the shot hard from the off, learn to accelerate the cue forward from a longer backswing stroking only from the elbow with a firm relaxed hold on the butt that opens on the backswing to keep the cue as level as possible, eyes on the object ball when striking the cue ball should ensure a good follow through and keep your cue on the line of aim.

                Most miscues are the result of movement on the shot caused by trying to blast the cue forward from the shoulder and/or dipping down at the cue ball from a high bridge used normally for run thru. The above should counteract this and make you cue more smoothly and accurately.

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                • #9
                  gotta get through this

                  Also helps if you play the shot at a lower pace. This way you can concentrate on striking low with a low bridge. A long backswing helps. Some people say make sure you follow through but if you strike the cue ball well you will have a good follow through. The cue ball has already gone so concentrate on the actual strike.
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                  • #10
                    Big thing for most people when trying to screw back is the try to break the cue ball i.e. hit the shot way to hard..screw is all bout timing and nothing to do with power. If you time the stroke well enough and keep as still as you can then no reason why you cant learn to do screw/deep screw.
                    Not played for 3 years and itching for a game....11-3-2017.

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                    • #11
                      All the advice above is good. I would add a mental trick which is try and hit the object ball with the tip of the cue (unless they are less than 6" apart of course). Always keep the grip relaxed and always lower the bridge hand and for more power lengthen the backswing but do not try to increase the acceleration from the end of the backswing as that will lead to not only shoulder/upper body movement but also what's known as 'clutching the cue' which is tightening the grip too tight and too soon in the delivery, or before the strike.

                      Terry
                      Terry Davidson
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                      • #12
                        Originally Posted by CoachGavin View Post
                        Most miscues on screw shots from my experience is when the player is not aiming low enough. The player attempts to dip into the bottom of the cue ball during delivery resulting in the miscue. Aim low and strike where you are aiming.
                        Originally Posted by CoachGavin View Post
                        Also helps if you play the shot at a lower pace. This way you can concentrate on striking low with a low bridge. A long backswing helps. Some people say make sure you follow through but if you strike the cue ball well you will have a good follow through. The cue ball has already gone so concentrate on the actual strike.
                        imho, very wise advice from Coach Gavin ... he's fast becoming my favourite coach on TSF ...

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                        • #13
                          gotta get through this

                          that will soon change dandyA but thanks anyway ;0)
                          coaching is not just for the pros
                          www.121snookercoaching.com

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                          • #14
                            gotta get through this

                            Gav - how is being in China going?
                            Up the TSF! :snooker:

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                            • #15
                              yep agree with what's been said here, I have found a good shaped tip is also helps. any miscues I have had is when the tip has been worn down pretty low.

                              but as always try and flatten your cue, accelerate smoothly, even for deep screw and keep a very light grip, a lot of miss cues happen by gripping the cue too early which end up scooping.

                              last week I was doing some deep screw practice on straight blues, I recorded some of the practice which you can have a look at. here is the link... http://youtu.be/lvkYGJzey9I?list=UUz...9CTRp3Pd3k_EkA

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