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  • Originally Posted by pottr View Post
    Exactly the point of the whole routine...


    For a player at Les' level, I think it would be an achievement for him to be able to simply screw back and continue... But... and there is a but... A decent cueist (like the one in that PJ video) can simply fall over and keep knocking them in... you're not really gaining any training benefit... Bit like signing up for a gym membership and using the steam room and the sauna only...

    I think J6's approach errs on the side of getting you into a solid mindset for when you're practicing... Not exactly a bad thing.


    Like I said earlier... you can split the routine into 3 sections if you like:
    with cushions only, without and all inclusive.

    Even at Les' level though, I see no reason he couldn't have a bash at all 3 and have 3 personal bests
    Pottr I could not understand when you posted earlier in regards to using no cushions how that worked but after watching the videos that Ted posted I now understand. Doing it all three ways makes perfect sense to me. I always started with a stun off the cushion and carried on from there. I might get a chance to try a few this morning before I head out.
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    • Originally Posted by cyberheater View Post
      For feck sake guys. Are we supposed to use the cushions or not on the black routine. Someone decide
      Originally Posted by jrc750 View Post
      Les have we seen a vid yet of you doing blacks off the spot ?? like to see how you are going about it. When i do it i can maybe pot 6 or 7 into the same pocket by just using gentle screw shots, then maybe the next shot have to run thro to the other side then another half dozen gentle screw shots onto opposite pocket, etc etc etc hardly ever need to use a cushion
      That's what started it Cyber. We were just saying don't reach 30 and 25 of them be little screw shots, because what's the point?
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      • Originally Posted by tedisbill View Post
        That's what started it Cyber. We were just saying don't reach 30 and 25 of them be little screw shots, because what's the point?
        Well I know myself if I start with a little screw back shot I might get a couple more in before I am off line. All week I have been trying to make sure I keep the CB high so I can play off the cushion.
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        • Originally Posted by lesedwards View Post
          Well I know myself if I start with a little screw back shot I might get a couple more in before I am off line. All week I have been trying to make sure I keep the CB high so I can play off the cushion.
          Yeah that's fine. You can start with the cue ball high.
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          • Originally Posted by tedisbill View Post
            That's what started it Cyber. We were just saying don't reach 30 and 25 of them be little screw shots, because what's the point?
            Fair enough. I guess it's about cue ball control and learning the angles.

            I tend to make this routine a lot harder on myself as I'm trying to leave the white quite high and cut the black in as I have a hard time judging that angle. I also try to leave the white quite low and cut the black in as I also struggle with that angle as well.
            Last edited by cyberheater; 13 February 2015, 12:57 PM.

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            • you can never chop up the black routine cus it is what it is. if you can only run two and be out or miss great, next you go for four, then to ten and so on..
              i think i know pottr but hes nerver ever run a hundred blacks and it comes across. you don't run twenty and start efin about, you get your head down, dig in and you do that cup cake.. 10, 20, 50, 100

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              • Originally Posted by j6uk View Post
                you can never chop up the black routine cus it is what it is. if you can only run two and be out or miss great, next you go for four, then to ten and so on..
                i think i know pottr but hes nerver ever run a hundred blacks and it comes across. you don't run twenty and start efin about, you get your head down, dig in and you do that cup cake.. 10, 20, 50, 100
                Working on it right now. A little easier now but still tough. I am really working hard to get my 20 and then to my 30. I have a half hour left before I have to head to watch Cliff.
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                • Originally Posted by j6uk View Post
                  you can never chop up the black routine cus it is what it is. if you can only run two and be out or miss great, next you go for four, then to ten and so on..
                  i think i know pottr but hes nerver ever run a hundred blacks and it comes across. you don't run twenty and start efin about, you get your head down, dig in and you do that cup cake.. 10, 20, 50, 100
                  Err pretty sure he didn't say 20 then start mucking about Jason, he said indefinitely ie he could of gone on forever!

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                  • and you believe him cus i don't

                    Originally Posted by jrc750 View Post
                    Err pretty sure he didn't say 20 then start mucking about Jason, he said indefinitely ie he could of gone on forever!

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                    • I've done over 100 before, several times...

                      I've been playing for nearly 20 years. Apologies if I find that routine boring nowadays, there was a time where I would have been interested enough to test myself.

                      Fancy sticking up a tenner on the challenge that I can run 100 tonight within half hour of me being at home? Quite happily PM you my bank details x

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                      • he said indefinitely ie he could of gone on forever!
                        Clearly I was being facetious with that claim... All I meant was, I didn't feel tested and had no desire to hit any sort of target.

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                        • Originally Posted by pottr View Post
                          Clearly I was being facetious with that claim... All I meant was, I didn't feel tested and had no desire to hit any sort of target.
                          I knew what you meant don't worry, it's Jason who needs convincing ;-)

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                          • Originally Posted by pottr View Post
                            Clearly I was being facetious with that claim... All I meant was, I didn't feel tested and had no desire to hit any sort of target.
                            I can understand that. I haven't done the black or pink routines for years now and especially considering the black I miss very few off the spot no matter where the cueball is (within reason) and my real problem is cueball control these days (probably always was anyway).
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                            • Originally Posted by pottr View Post
                              Clearly I was being facetious with that claim... All I meant was, I didn't feel tested and had no desire to hit any sort of target.
                              Don't take the bait Pottr, we all know you're a decent player.

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                              • Originally Posted by Terry Davidson View Post
                                I can understand that. I haven't done the black or pink routines for years now and especially considering the black I miss very few off the spot no matter where the cueball is (within reason) and my real problem is cueball control these days (probably always was anyway).
                                I would think your table would be extremely tough to run blacks off the spot as it is soooooo fast. One little twitch and you are up at the blue spot. When does the new cloth go on? Going to watch Cliff play Allan today. The grinder against a potter on a big bucket table, should be interesting.
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