The Les Edwards Snooker Challenge Thread

[cyberheater]

Yeah your a legend - thanks for sharing those topless pictures of that hot babe on the snooker table that you can see here below

http://www.thesnookerforum.co.uk/boa...bid-from-world

I clicked on that link

[Byrom]

I clicked on that link

well technically its all there if you look

[RogiBear]

Okay guys I had a chance to video one game with my son tonight. Tell me what you see different compared to watching me doing the challenges. Something feels different but I cannot put my finger on it.

https://bambuser.com/v/5264667

Tbh Les I think its quite similar in some respects to your challenge videos. I'll leave the technical details down to others but my observation is losing the white. For example quite early on you potted the blue a couple of times but were never really in position. You left yourself short and had to play recovery shots. Admittedly you potted some, but ultimately its a chain reaction until you break down. Also colours off their spots aren't really conducive to big breaks. Its just practice!!

[Byrom]

Firstly sorry for pinching a bit of your global snooker popularity on this thread Mr Les Edwards by the way - but thanks for being a good sport about it and signing the petition yourself - much appreciated - I will leave you to it - now but I watched your video - messy game

I would say you are still over technical as you play and have a bad habit of not finding the line right. No point doing this as you do then getting down then looking down at your feet to see if your standing right lol - find the line when you are up and getting into the shot and aim on your way down Les - keep your eyes on the object ball until on the way down and set - do not look at your feet when in the shot you are taking your eyes off the line. I aim on my way down sort of swoop into the shot and trust my line - yours is a little more hesitant - now nothing wrong with that if that is your style but don't get down take your eyes off the object ball get down and then look elsewhere then back to the shot - You look a bit Cliff Thorburn ish in style actually - you even have his habit of cueing over the middle of the white with the cue to find centre which is a Dell Hill trick I believe.

Not that bad though getting better - must be hard for you not having a lot of players with the right positional sense to play against near you as the frames tend to get scrappy and easy to get lazy on shot selections. Stick with the routines as you will learn more about position and pace of the shot - automatically knowing where to stun up and down centre white for position and lots of other stuff like this - enjoy and good luck.

[Leo]

Okay guys I had a chance to video one game with my son tonight. Tell me what you see different compared to watching me doing the challenges. Something feels different but I cannot put my finger on it.

https://bambuser.com/v/5264667

Sometimes being critical works best for some and others it don't, but for me Les that was verging on a very poor display and hoping a big change in your game in the coming months. I'm not going to say well done as I think that will be lying and for me that's not going to help your game as it will make you think you're on the right tracks when you've got a long way to go.
I echo what the Olympic committee spokesman above said in his last post about thanks for putting the video up and hopefully this time next year you might've cracked it.

[lesedwards]

I watched it back and it is ugly, I applause anyone that watches the whole thing. Now as far as my feet I normally never look down but I am trying to correct a problem I have with to narrow of stance and my body wondering back n fourth so Floyd had me change my stance so I was more stable. Yes getting good matches with comparable players is very tough. My has a habbit of playing a few safety shots at the beginning then after that it's full steam a head....LOL but still better then nothing. There are no routines that take the place of matches and balls everywhere and making shot selections. SHOT SELECTION now that is a big one. When I went to see Terry a couple weeks ago our first game he walked me through each shot where, why & how and it came down to a black ball then the rest of the day the games where over before the Reds were cleared. So what's that tell me? I am not seeing the table. Now we talk about clearing colours but very seldom in our matches are the colours even close to their spots. I noticed on the weekend in my match in all three games the colours where everywhere. Bottom line we miss a lot of colour shots because of poor position off the red and therefore colours get banged around like reds. Bottom line this is one tough frustrating game.

[Terry Davidson]

Okay guys I had a chance to video one game with my son tonight. Tell me what you see different compared to watching me doing the challenges. Something feels different but I cannot put my finger on it.

https://bambuser.com/v/5264667

Les:

You still have a very short final backswing and also you're addressing the cueball with the forearm back behind the vertical. In solo practice first of all lengthen your feathers which SHOULD translate into getting a longer backswing. Because you have your forearm behind the vertical you are also limiting the length of the backswing too. Get it vertical in the address prosition.

You may find using a longer backswing you feel you lose control of the cue and that may be true but stick with it and develop a longer backswing. Your son uses a longer backswing most of the time. To keep a longer backswing straight all you have to do is slow it down.

Your grip still seems off somehow but I can't really see what it is from the video. Just try loosening the grip even further than you are now.

[Ricky2112]

Ok here we go, now bear in mind I don't play to a high standard like a lot of guys on the forum. I watched this to the end but on many occasions nearly switched it off. I was left raging on many occasions due to very poor etiquette mostly by your lad who I find to be very LAZY, why on earth does he not pick out the colours and spot them after you pot them Les. Also three TV's on in the background which your son found more entertaining. Then later in the game Les you were also distracted with the TV's. Ok rant over for now.
I enjoy watching your progress Les as I am also trying to get back into the game and improve my ability.

Ok now onto the frame. Very similar to a lot of frames I am involved in, very messy table, too many shots tried for and no safety play at all. My view on your game Les is that you have improved a lot from earlier footage I have seen from you. I think you played most shoots quite positive and potted some good balls. You are a bit like me where you loose the white a lot and are always chasing for a break. I would like to see you play a frame with a better opponent with no outside distractions, (TV's) and with someone who know etiquette of the game.

My final thought are that if the table was not so messed up I think you have turned a corner Les and I am impressed with you determination. If you want to keep playing your lad then you need to teach him how he should conduct himself while playing snooker. Fielding your own pots while trying to build breaks only looses you focus and hinders your progress. Acceptable in practise but not in game play.
Les, I'm well impressed with the work you put into your table and the hard work you put into you game, for me you are going in the right direction.

keep it up bud.

Cheers Ricky

[Byrom]

I don't think that is part of the etiquette over there - they like to do things differently - I think fielding for yourselves is regarded as the done thing in Canada Rick for some reason.

They even make bank shots instead of doubles and call the game Snuker

I think when they eat a moose its not chocolate either

[lesedwards]

Thanks Ricky. Yes I know my son has a lot to learn but he has a disability when it comes to learning. Never got through school as they just pushed him through. He is now 22 and a great son but cannot get a license and cannot completely follow the game when it comes to free balls and all the rules of Snooker. But he loves to play.
Now as for my game yes I feel it is coming but I am not sure if it is concentration or just knowledge you get by playing but I seem to never really seem to be able to get myself in proper position and when I do I am out of position real quick. I use to say to Cliff I need to be able pot more balls but thats not the case, I can pot balls if I make proper shape but when I am always out of position or up against the rails tbere is no hope. Biggest problem is getting matches. Yes I do get some games with Floyd but that is just playing around. I miss and he clears table. I go through routine after routine but nothing takes the place of lots of matches. I will say Teds challenge has met me focused. Thanks Ted.

[jrc750]

When you play Cliff do you make him get his own colours out of the pockets?

[lesedwards]

When you play Cliff do you make him get his own colours out of the pockets?

Are you kidding, I bring out a pair of nice white gloves..... Wow I put up a video to get some opinions and you guys are picking a part my son. He is the only match I have. Our next tournament is Feb 28 which will probably be my next time I actually have a competitive match. I guess I better try playing games against myself.

[itsnoteasy]

To be fair Les that was far better than I was expecting, I don't know if that's a good thing or my expectations were that low lol.
I know people say it doesn't matter but I would like your back arm straight, I just think it has to be harder to cue straight all the time with a big old chicken wing.
If I had to sum up how you played in one word it would be ,thoughtless, there seems no rhyme nor reason to a lot of your shots, I saw a man just pleased he was potting balls not really attempting to string anything together but you potted better than I expected ,although your cue action is very very jabby, but it seems to be a trait in Canada and it didn't stop Cliff winning a world title

[lesedwards]

To be fair Les that was far better than I was expecting, I don't know if that's a good thing or my expectations were that low lol.
I know people say it doesn't matter but I would like your back arm straight, I just think it has to be harder to cue straight all the time with a big old chicken wing.
If I had to sum up how you played in one word it would be ,thoughtless, there seems no rhyme nor reason to a lot of your shots, I saw a man just pleased he was potting balls not really attempting to string anything together but you potted better than I expected ,although your cue action is very very jabby, but it seems to be a trait in Canada and it didn't stop Cliff winning a world title

Thanks for the encouragement I think. I need a lot of work. I have watched it a few times and look at what I should be shooting and what I shot and it is plain stupid. Practice, Practice but what happens when you run out of patience...

[itsnoteasy]

Thanks for the encouragement I think. I need a lot of work. I have watched it a few times and look at what I should be shooting and what I shot and it is plain stupid. Practice, Practice but what happens when you run out of patience...

more practice that's what happens, that's all there is, but practice is for learning, no point just hitting balls around.
Could I ask Les, out of ten how do you think you played in that frame, compared to how you usually play. To be fair It's hard to judge someone on one frame, as anyone can look like they are struggling if it's a messy frame, so it would be better if you could say at roughly what standard that frame is to how you normally play.