The Les Edwards Snooker Challenge Thread

[jrc750]

You can see by the above comments Leo does no have much faith in me. I will be working hard to achieve my best. I will post some videos and you guys can cut me up. I agree Leo 50 could be out of reach. But I will put a little challenge on this one. If I post a video with me potting 50 at some point this week then I want to see you and the rest of the chatter boxes potting 50. This is a very good routine but also a very tough one.

I think Leo was saying 50 blacks my easy way was still out of your reach Les

[lesedwards]

I think Leo was saying 50 blacks my easy way was still out of your reach Les

Well I will be going at it the proper way. Start with a stun off the bottom cushion and carry on from there. I think you guys are pretty safe as my career best is 23 but I will be working hard. Funny all the other challenges by Monday or Tuesday guys where posting videos to show they completed it. You watch how many we see this time. I will post mine in 15 minute intervals. I am not afraid to post videos when I don't sucede.

[j6uk]

yeah thats cus if done it

You really are hard work

[j6uk]

i hear you. its the best. if you've only got 40m-hour to play with and/or your cars on a meter pop in the club and take the black and white and away you go.
you'll transform your game and the way you see the scoring end of the table within a couple of weeks if you did this one for an hour a day

I am with j6 on this one. It seems like some people never did the black routine. I guess if you want to clock pots and your pocket are big enough and your action is precise that you could never get an angle starting with a straight screw back. I am a beginner but the black routine is really opening my eyes. It can teach you so much so why would you just try to do couple of soft screws back? It is all about getting an angle, be it stun of the top cushion, screw with side of the 2 cushions, top to bounce on the other side, possibilities are endless. Even when you are straight what you should do is either try to force it like j6 suggests or just simply screw back of the cushion so you are on a nice angle again. Try to do it and then you understand what they mean when they say that Ronnies game is an art. I do not know if that is what he does but I would expect all his shots to be a mix of a pace, spot on the white in all axes, acceleration or lack of it, punch or smoothly through. It is like a trance when you can get it right. You can just feel what to do to get where you want to be.

I have maybe spend about 30h over 2 years on it. Mostly because my potting wasn't reliable. Once your potting is better than it is the routine to do. It is the big one. When you get the hang of it everything opens up and when you are on the brake in a frame you just clock around that area again but with reds this time leaving yourself nice angles on the black and you simply fancy those shots because you have perfected them on the black routine. Just give it a go and see your game being taken onto the next level.

Cheers

[alabadi]

you could never get an angle starting with a straight screw back. I am a beginner but the black routine is really opening my eyes. It can teach you so much so why would you just try to do couple of soft screws back? It is all about getting an angle, be it stun of the top cushion, screw with side of the 2 cushions, top to bounce on the other side, possibilities are endless.

I think if a beginner landed straight, I can't see them having more than 2 screw backs before they will have an angle, they are not going to be that precise.

I myself when I land straight I allow myself one screw back and then I will screw back by potting slightly to one side of the pocket, this will create an angle even if it is slightly then I can either screw back again creating a larger angle or run through off 2 cushions

[lesedwards]

I think even if a beginner landed straight, I can't see him having more than 2 screw backs before they will have an angle, they are not going to be that precise.

I myself when I land straight I allow myself one screw back and then I will screw back by potting slightly to one side of the pocket, this will create an angle even if it is slightly then I can either screw back again creating a larger angle or run through off 2 cushions

I agree, I am waiting to see how many you can run. This is a good test to see the difference in our games.

[alabadi]

I agree, I am waiting to see how many you can run. This is a good test to see the difference in our games.

You will have to wait till Saturday, because that's when I do most of my solo

[sealer]

I agree, I am waiting to see how many you can run. This is a good test to see the difference in our games.

I guess a better player will run more.

However I think in order to really appreciate the routine it is better to focus on the possibilities around the black first. See what sort of angles you get from hitting very top, very bottom and in betweens from different positions. It will show you where you just need that touch of side to be able to get where you want as sometimes you are just to high or to straight. I have done just that yesterday and enjoyed it a lot. I have found out that a high black with a bit more screw and side is a lovely shot of 2 cushions back to where I was and it seems so easy when you are cuing well. I was also surprised that the adjustment for side takes care for itself and is automatic. Same with follow through, I would just set the same shot for about 20 times and see what is possible with an off straight black. Wasn't really trying to make as many as I could. I just tried to discover the options. If I was you and had the time and the table I would just do that first and at the end of the practice try 10 x to do as many as possible. Note that Ted did not give you a number. He knows this routine is a mine of knowledge. Use it.

[j6uk]

I don't back any sisters up on here sugar, I'm only saying that with Les I think the basic black into the pocket will do at the moment and then maybe if he achieves this then move on to making the black pot harder.

lol the basic black routine

[lesedwards]

lol the basic black routine

I don't back any sisters up on here sugar, I'm only saying that with Les I think the basic black into the pocket will do at the moment and then maybe if he achieves this then move on to making the black pot harder.

Well Leo basic black are not a problem as I miss very few blacks with this excersise, the problem is maintaing good position to be able to continue. Tried it for half hour this morning and best was 5 all because I left the CB low or way too high not because I missed the black.

[jrc750]

Well Leo basic black are not a problem as I miss very few blacks with this excersise, the problem is maintaing good position to be able to continue. Tried it for half hour this morning and best was 5 all because I left the CB low or way too high not because I missed the black.

No point then Les is there?
How many can you pot my easier way?

[j6uk]

well it could of missed on 99 and that might be just as frustrating.. iv spent hundreds of hrs on this and remember how it was when i started. it shouldn't take long till you can run 10 with ease.
if you can do 15red line then no reason why you can't do standard 10blacks

Well Leo basic black are not a problem as I miss very few blacks with this excersise, the problem is maintaing good position to be able to continue. Tried it for half hour this morning and best was 5 all because I left the CB low or way too high not because I missed the black.

[GeordieDS]

This was a very good thread but it looks like it's going off track a bit, to much nit picking imo

[lesedwards]

lol the basic black routine

This was a very good thread but it looks like it's going off track a bit, to much nit picking imo

I agree Geordie, this thread was designed to make me focus on practice and for anyone else that wanted to join in, not for guys to put myself and anyone else that tries it down.

[j6uk]

and its all about you lesley. but i don't mind getting my hands oily for you once in a while

I agree Geordie, this thread was designed to make me focus on practice and for anyone else that wanted to join in, not for guys to put myself and anyone else that tries it down.