The Les Edwards Snooker Challenge Thread

[j6uk]

You've got no backswing, Les. So you just can't possibly generate the acceleration needed and also, be accurate. It's like asking you to drive the golf ball as far as you can, but you can only bring the club back half a foot, isn't going to happen.

Thanks Byrom, still running through my challenges. Ran the 4 red lineup with all blacks first attempt today then the T first attempt with 3 Blacks and 1 Pink. Then went into the new challenge but only managed 3 Blacks n extra red. Keep miss cueing on screw shots. HELP

you skimmed over this, what about what ted said on the last page?

[lesedwards]

you skimmed over this, what about what ted said on the last page?

Yea I know J6. Even little screw shot where I want to make the black and screw back off the cushion out for a red. I either get no screw because I don't hit it low enough or I jump right over the black and take a few peices of hairs of Nap off. So many guys make it look so easy. Now I will point out one thing if I am in the middle of the table where I can get my bridge hand on the table I am much better or on the black when my bridge hand is on the cushion but if the ball is say 12" off the cushion I am in trouble and maybe this cannot be helped as my arm will not allow my wrist to bend so my bridge is basically suspended in mid air with just my finger tips on the cloth something like cueing over another ball and trying to screw it back. So just a small movement of my bridge and I miss cue. Also my V at that point is barely holding the cue.

[tedisbill]

Can you show us a demo of the screw shots you're struggling with, and we'll try and see what's wrong.

[lesedwards]

Can you show us a demo of the screw shots you're struggling with, and we'll try and see what's wrong.

Hi Ted yes tomorrow I will post some videos. Also looking at the table from the black end I have much more trouble on the left side then I do the right because I can't get my hand on the table on the left side if the ball is 8 to 12" off the cushion where the right side I can lay my screwed up arm out on the table. Tough to explain but I have guys tell me such as Cliff the first time I met with him, you have to get your Palm of your bridge hand on the table at all times until he found out that was impossible from the right side of the table. Even Long blues I am all cramped up with my screwed up elbow on the cushion. Love long blues from the right side of the table. Now with a pink I would rather take a pink on a slight angle between blue n green on the right side then I would a slight angle on the pink between pink n blue 12" off the cushion on the left side. Half the distance but much tougher for me. I know a left handers home is the left side of the table but not for me. Sorry for the long story guys. Tomorrow I will get some videos from different angles to show you what I am talking about. Perfect explanation, HAVE YOU EVER TRIED TO PLAY A DEEP SCREW WHILE CUEING OVER ANOTHER BALL? that's me 8" off the cushion.

[j6uk]

well this is it an in a way its almost unfair to keep asking for and getting answers for what you should be doing knowing full well your not physically able to do it
iv worked with and played some very good players over the years who've had similar handy caps, and unlike you 'at the moment at leased' they've all worked really hard to deliver the cue properly an in many cases had lovely cue actions because of theyre challenges . plus they studied an practice loads
but if your disability affects your cueing arm then it gets more serious as to your development. from what i can see you always look cramped. in discomfort and not really enjoying what your doing
now if all of this is true and its a struggle to practice or physically change anything technically, i still think i could improve your scoring by 14 and take you out of the 20s

Yea I know J6. Even little screw shot where I want to make the black and screw back off the cushion out for a red. I either get no screw because I don't hit it low enough or I jump right over the black and take a few peices of hairs of Nap off. So many guys make it look so easy. Now I will point out one thing if I am in the middle of the table where I can get my bridge hand on the table I am much better or on the black when my bridge hand is on the cushion but if the ball is say 12" off the cushion I am in trouble and maybe this cannot be helped as my arm will not allow my wrist to bend so my bridge is basically suspended in mid air with just my finger tips on the cloth something like cueing over another ball and trying to screw it back. So just a small movement of my bridge and I miss cue. Also my V at that point is barely holding the cue.

[lesedwards]

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well this is it an in a way its almost unfair to keep asking for and getting answers for what you should be doing knowing full well your not physically able to do it
iv worked with and played some very good players over the years who've had similar handy caps, and unlike you 'at the moment at leased' they've all worked really hard to deliver the cue properly an in many cases had lovely cue actions because of theyre challenges . plus they studied an practice loads
but if your disability affects your cueing arm then it gets more serious as to your development. from what i can see you always look cramped. in discomfort and not really enjoying what your doing
now if all of this is true and its a struggle to practice or physically change anything technically, i still think i could improve your scoring by 14 and take you out of the 20s

I will take anything I can get. As far as cramped yes you are 100% correct. As for discomfort sometimes like yesterday after clearing some heavy snow and ice away from pathway and then shoulders where aching. As for enjoying the game I love the game or I would not spend hours at my table. Such as today from 10:00 to 12:00 and from 1:00 to 4:00 five hours of practicing mostly chalkenges and did run through each colour playing with six reds from different angles.

[lesedwards]

Hey maybe I could get one of those mechanical bridges that fastens to your hand. My Son pointed one out to me....LOL...

[j6uk]

i remember you also saying your arm also affected your shoulders and neck and i can see you have a lot of upper body tension.. so your disability affects your cue arm right? you can't cue freely , you can only peck the white?

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I will take anything I can get. As far as cramped yes you are 100% correct. As for discomfort sometimes like yesterday after clearing some heavy snow and ice away from pathway and then shoulders where aching. As for enjoying the game I love the game or I would not spend hours at my table. Such as today from 10:00 to 12:00 and from 1:00 to 4:00 five hours of practicing mostly chalkenges and did run through each colour playing with six reds from different angles.

[GeordieDS]

Won a match in a tournament eh? Well done Les.

Nice to see you back sir

[j6uk]

i see you like a laugh while tying to improve, cool man

Hey maybe I could get one of those mechanical bridges that fastens to your hand. My Son pointed one out to me....LOL...

[lesedwards]

i remember you also saying your arm also affected your shoulders and neck and i can see you have a lot of upper body tension.. so your disability affects your cue arm right? you can't cue freely , you can only peck the white?

My shoulders are affected but still can cue freely.

[j6uk]

so you can actually bring the cue tip back to your bridge hand and follow through to your chest with no discomfort??

My shoulders are affected but still can cue freely.

[lesedwards]

so you can actually bring the cue tip back to your bridge hand and follow through to your chest with no discomfort??

Yes, I don't like to admit it with my jabby stroke but yes I can if I choke up about 16" on a normal shot. As TD has said in the past I am behind parallel which does not allow me to bring the cue back but if I choke up where I should be then the weight is all behind my grip and the tip end wants to come up. It's like the cue is way off balance because of my very compact position.

[j6uk]

so your trying to play without a technique, this is madness. i don't find it helpful to anyone looking in on threads like this where people are cheering you on an building you up when you have no chance in getting through these routines without having the ability to play the shots your going nowhere until you have a cue action
though i could still improve your scoring by 14

Yes, I don't like to admit it with my jabby stroke but yes I can if I choke up about 16" on a normal shot. As TD has said in the past I am behind parallel which does not allow me to bring the cue back but if I choke up where I should be then the weight is all behind my grip and the tip end wants to come up. It's like the cue is way off balance because of my very compact position.

[lesedwards]

so your trying to play without a technique, this is madness. i don't find it helpful to anyone looking in on threads like this where people are cheering you on an building you up when you have no chance in getting through these routines without having the ability to play the shots your going nowhere until you have a cue action
though i could still improve your scoring by 14

I will put up some videos tomorrow and you can have a look.