Getting a snooker table!

[OmaMiesta]

Oma:

You should be playing in our tournaments. I think you have everything you need and it's just practice, practice, practice for you to improve.

Les:

Note Oma's backswing and grip. On most power shots the ferrule is coming back to the 'V' and the elbow has dropped at the end of the backswing, similar to Ronnie. That long backswing is a great help if a player can control it.

Thanks Terry, Ill definitely come for the next tournament....will practice till then!

[Ramon]

Thanks man, you're welcome to come play if you're ever in the area It plays pretty good but the cloth is kind of slow, heres a video :

sorry for late rplay !! table plays well!! is true, is kind of slow. But so are the most club tables (if you go to the club to play the game). I think the cloth can replace easy (in future). Watch this video: this is my brother. We bought a new cue (maple shaft). Hey just trying the cue out. (just potting some balls, not break building or such). It's a club table. frankly ,, I think your table is faster than this one . BTW,, thanks for the invitation. If I ever come to canada,, I will visit you ( and Less ))).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNCM...ature=youtu.be

[OmaMiesta]

sorry for late rplay !! table plays well!! is true, is kind of slow. But so are the most club tables (if you go to the club to play the game). I think the cloth can replace easy (in future). Watch this video: this is my brother. We bought a new cue (maple shaft). Hey just trying the cue out. (just potting some balls, not break building or such). It's a club table. frankly ,, I think your table is faster than this one . BTW,, thanks for the invitation. If I ever come to canada,, I will visit you ( and Less ))).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNCM...ature=youtu.be

Nice video, I like the music haha. Your brother has a good eye for the angles. Im no coach but I think he just needs to work on his stroke (elevating the butt too much) and position but then again don't we all?

[Ramon]

Nice video, I like the music haha. Your brother has a good eye for the angles. Im no coach but I think he just needs to work on his stroke (elevating the butt too much) and position but then again don't we all?

well, to be honest, he wasn't building any break or ....!! just a few scrwback shots/stun shots/and things like that.to try the cue.
As for the butt: yes I know. But the most important thing is that your cue is parallel with the table during delivery!! ROS does this too. is a very strange technique!! Anyway,, I think he has a very nice backswing!! enjoy ur game my friend,,,, and enjoy ur amazing table !!!!

[Alba_]

So potting the balls in not break building? Feathering before you get down to the shot and no shot routine and wild cue ball control. Fix those a bit Ramon and you will be a decent player

[Ramon]

So potting the balls in not break building? Feathering before you get down to the shot and no shot routine and wild cue ball control. Fix those a bit Ramon and you will be a decent player

Ramon ?? that's my brother, kid !! He has done this so much, he sees the angels equal and immediately ( with this kind of easy balls, No need to feathering ??? ) !!! I wanted to show oma The speed of the table !!! this was not about my brother !!! btw,,,, when u gonna to try a new cue,, do'nt go and try to make a breaks. You build the break with ur arm not with ur cue. Just try a few SCRback shots / stun shots / power shots .... to see how the cue plays and does what u tel hem to do !!!

[OmaMiesta]

well, to be honest, he wasn't building any break or ....!! just a few scrwback shots/stun shots/and things like that.to try the cue.
As for the butt: yes I know. But the most important thing is that your cue is parallel with the table during delivery!! ROS does this too. is a very strange technique!! Anyway,, I think he has a very nice backswing!! enjoy ur game my friend,,,, and enjoy ur amazing table !!!!

Yea he definitely gets through the cue ball well, and his backswing is nice and long. But I used to do that too when the backswing was too long and grip is tight I would raise the butt a little bit which can cause you to twist or shoot across the ball sometimes. ROS has a very long backswing but he drops his elbow to prevent raising the butt. I just started to do this recently and noticed a huge improvement in my delivery. But aside from that your brother seems like a very good potter, sees the shot really quick and accelerates the cue very smooth. Just has to work on delivering it straight consistently in my opinion. Thanks for the share

[Ramon]

Yea he definitely gets through the cue ball well, and his backswing is nice and long. But I used to do that too when the backswing was too long and grip is tight I would raise the butt a little bit which can cause you to twist or shoot across the ball sometimes. ROS has a very long backswing but he drops his elbow to prevent raising the butt. I just started to do this recently and noticed a huge improvement in my delivery. But aside from that your brother seems like a very good potter, sees the shot really quick and accelerates the cue very smooth. Just has to work on delivering it straight consistently in my opinion. Thanks for the share

Agree,,, as long as u do that after striking the CB ,, is no problem !!! ( According sum coaches is wrong !! )). to be honest, I think a short backswing leave less room for errors. However, I also do this,,. I have a back swing about 10 inches.( my brother about 8/9 inches ). Anyway,,, this kid enjoys his game and so do i!! I'm trying to make a vid of him during a break ( when ever i see him again and if i'm not dead until then )..... !! I 'm not a coach... but I do think u have a nice backswing. and a very good cue action,,,,, u gonna be a very good player !!!

[OmaMiesta]

Agree,,, as long as u do that after striking the CB ,, is no problem !!! ( According sum coaches is wrong !! )). to be honest, I think a short backswing leave less room for errors. However, I also do this,,. I have a back swing about 10 inches.( my brother about 8/9 inches ). Anyway,,, this kid enjoys his game and so do i!! I'm trying to make a vid of him during a break ( when ever i see him again and if i'm not dead until then )..... !! I 'm not a coach... but I do think u have a nice backswing. and a very good cue action,,,,, u gonna be a very good player !!!

Thanks, I'm sure you are too I started off with a short backswing but I think I tend to jab the ball rather than stroke it with a short swing. I like the long backswing a lot better, its requires a little more precision but It helps you feel more confident when shooting with a smooth and longer stroke. Oh yea forgot to ask, where do you live?

[markz]

Looking really good Oma, keep up a well structured training program and your gonna progress really quick. Loads of helpful routines all over the Internet and videos on YouTube to give you ideas. Look forward to watching more videos as you progress, good luck mate.

[OmaMiesta]

Looking really good Oma, keep up a well structured training program and your gonna progress really quick. Loads of helpful routines all over the Internet and videos on YouTube to give you ideas. Look forward to watching more videos as you progress, good luck mate.

Appreciate the encouragement, thats definitely the plan. Will hopefully put in a lot of hours and try not to mess around too much, Will keep you guys posted

[Ramon]

Thanks, I'm sure you are too I started off with a short backswing but I think I tend to jab the ball rather than stroke it with a short swing. I like the long backswing a lot better, its requires a little more precision but It helps you feel more confident when shooting with a smooth and longer stroke. Oh yea forgot to ask, where do you live?

I can'nt play snooker just talk too much !! I think it is a matter of personal preference. Play the snooker with feeling and try to feel the shot!! Not like a Robat!! No tension in your muscles and let the cue do its job!! a long backswing and a good follow through the CB,, demands a lot of experience and confidence!! Happy to see u have a lot of talent !! so , that should be a no problem !! as for your question,,, where I live?? ( I'll send u a PM )>>>.

[Terry Davidson]

Ramon:

I believe Oma meant he started dropping the elbow near the end of his long backswing which is actually good form. With a 10" backswing you can't keep the cue on the same plane without dropping the elbow a bit (maybe 1" or so) and therefore if you don't drop the elbow the butt of the cue will rise and you will end up 'scooping' the cue into the cueball with the tip rising from the start of the delivery to the strike.

Now on the delivery however, dropping the elbow is not a great thing unless it's done well after the strike but the problem is a lot of players allow the elbow drop to 'creep up' in their delivery and that is not a good thing as the shoulder muscle is what drops the elbow and it shouldn't be involved in the shot at all (see Judd Trump). This is also what happens when a player uses a shorter backswing as then he will try and use the more powerful shoulder muscle to deliver the cue and at the same time grip the cue tighter right at the start of the delivery. That's not so good.

[Ramon]

Ramon:

I believe Oma meant he started dropping the elbow near the end of his long backswing which is actually good form. With a 10" backswing you can't keep the cue on the same plane without dropping the elbow a bit (maybe 1" or so) and therefore if you don't drop the elbow the butt of the cue will rise and you will end up 'scooping' the cue into the cueball with the tip rising from the start of the delivery to the strike.

Now on the delivery however, dropping the elbow is not a great thing unless it's done well after the strike but the problem is a lot of players allow the elbow drop to 'creep up' in their delivery and that is not a good thing as the shoulder muscle is what drops the elbow and it shouldn't be involved in the shot at all (see Judd Trump). This is also what happens when a player uses a shorter backswing as then he will try and use the more powerful shoulder muscle to deliver the cue and at the same time grip the cue tighter right at the start of the delivery. That's not so good.

good explanation Terry,, thanks!!! well, to be honest I knew Oma meant it well!! as I mentioned to Oma , a short backswing, , leave less room for errors. I said that to this kid !!! .to use it sometimes .l!! like missing that red ball in the corner pokket (inexcusable ) !! And this goes even for some Pro's!! But he continues to do it and he's doing it consistenly ( Perhaps because he began playing snooker at a young age?? who knows !!!! ).... . So, here's the problem: this kid is a natural potter!! believe me, he sees the angels right away and even despite his long backswing,, has a nice CB control. To get that kind of CB reaction on the club table is not easy!! with scruwbackshots he'll get the CB back exactly as long as it is needed. the problem is: he has no idea how he does this. I have seen players asking him, how do u pot these balls,, and he says: I have no idea!!! kind of Arrogant and not according to the rules!!! He moves his head during power shots sometimes (just a bit ) ... Nasty habit!! his eyes remain focused on the OB although,,, I know that for sure, because I have seen it. but stil , it's a Nasty habit !! Anyway,, is kind of player that plays with a lot of feeling. My kind of taste. Is a matter of personal preference, I guess,, !!!

[OmaMiesta]

Hey guys, just a practice update on the table for anyone that would like to know...its playing really well, think I've gotten a good feel for the speed of the cloth and the cushions.