Plain ball all the time - nonsense

[lesedwards]

Yes, I did misquote you but you said one thing that was definitely wrong. Even a half-tip width out from centre will throw the cueball and mentally you have to compensate for that in your aim, even if it's only a short shot.

The other thing no one has considered, including you Les, is it is possible to 'cheat the pocket' and get a different angle on the cueball and the pros do that a lot and you even have the commentators pointing it out.

Cheating the pocket.......I always find the pocket is cheating me..... I am out of this post. I have said what I thought was right and listed a video for you to check out and now it's down to the practice table.

[Byrom]

Yes, I did misquote you but you said one thing that was definitely wrong. Even a half-tip width out from centre will throw the cueball and mentally you have to compensate for that in your aim, even if it's only a short shot.

The other thing no one has considered, including you Les, is it is possible to 'cheat the pocket' and get a different angle on the cueball and the pros do that a lot and you even have the commentators pointing it out.

That statement is wrong I think because you mentally adjust on any shot you aim for and players learn about throw how to mitigate throw and well they can just do it Terry.

I agree with aceman its hard to make a 50 in open play if you don't know about using side - perhaps you don't like playing with it with your jabby cue action Tel?

[OmaMiesta]

Exactly! I asked a similar question before. Im just so used to using side, certain shots I can only make when I use side as it seems easier believe it or not. Ive heard countless times that I should only be using centre and I always end up playing worse when I do. Of-course for straight shots I only use centre but if there is slight angle I always use helping side while aiming thick or thin.

[OmaMiesta]

why would you use side if you are not hitting a cushion, also when you say inside left to pot to the right. do you mean the pockets to the right. i say this this because i would imagine if you put some left hand side on the cueball it will squirt slightly right which in effect push the cueball left. which if you didn't adjust the aiming you could hit the OB thin.

i have seen pros use a bit of side on just off straight shots, but usually the would you opposite side to where the OB is going just to counter the just off straight shot

Hes talking about helping side, certain shots are easier to make with a touch of it.

[j6uk]

what shots are easier with using side?

[RogiBear]

Personally I tend to not use side unless it's needed for position off a cushion. However there is one type of pot I play with side as I find it easier, and it's when the object ball is tight or very close to a cushion to then cut down the rail.

[Leo]

I really can't understand why the arguments on this thread!! We all play our own game on how we feel most comfortable, so there's no right or wrong. I play with unintentional side not because I'm cueing there deliberately it's just how I play since an early age, wether this is wrong who gives a toss it doesn't effect my game.

[j6uk]

as much as side seems to help moving the white around i feel many players miss out on really understanding the table and the possibilities when they're constantly taking the same limited routes and inevitably breaking down

[thelongbomber]

The semantics do matter actually when it comes to this discussion.

You can always go down the line of "nothing at all matters". I agree. I'm not religious, so I'm just doing the same as every other human on this planet: spending my time doing various things each day, to get a reasonable amount of enjoyment from each day until I die.

I just found it very odd, that somebody would be so pleased with a massive personal achievement like knocking in a 101 (in practice with a friend on a 10 foot table). Yet when the same person knocks in a 134 (in practice with a friend on a FULL SIZED table), it's not even worth mentioning. Is it just me that thinks that's odd? Because that's the goal for most amateurs on this forum: to be able to achieve really good snooker in proper frames against their friends.

As previously stated, it was on video so I told you guys about it. A 134 clearance isn't actually that important in the context of all the others things going on in my life right at this moment - mega issues, none of your business. You seem to be probing for truth in what I said, which tells me you don't trust me. How sad for you. You should take a hiatus from this forum to get some perspective as it's not healthy to be so reliant on what others say or do.

[haggishunter]

I really can't understand why the arguments on this thread!! We all play our own game on how we feel most comfortable, so there's no right or wrong. I play with unintentional side not because I'm cueing there deliberately it's just how I play since an early age, wether this is wrong who gives a toss it doesn't effect my game.

my thoughts exactly, I started reading and got bored quickly as it seems to me there are a few know it all's out there that want to give their opinion quickly forgetting that's all it is, an opinion. for me I try not to play with side unless I'm playing safe-or unless it's an easy pot. this is because I still have a lot to learn about cb control and judging pace etc. that's my choice. I work most days, work long hours for pennies and at the end of the month, what I can manage time and money wise is 2 long sessions a week and my weekly league match. my game is still improving though and I'm happy with that. think people need to get over themselves, as mentioned above play how you play and be happy with it, if your knocking in century breaks with or without 'helping side' I'm pure cheezin for ye!

[Heavy Grebo]

I don't understand how hitting the white ball with side affects the object ball, surely the side doesn't transfer to the object ball so how can it be helping side, I understand throwing the angle of the white with a little side and use it myself but are you not making any pot more difficult using side? Educate me

[Byrom]

and this is your first post?

[jrc750]

and this is your first post?

You seem very argumentative today mate

[Byrom]

Not really - though I did get some big bills today

I will leave this thread leave you all to it but let me ask two simple questions -

Name me one player in the top 32 that just uses centre ball plain ball striking when playing snooker?

Why do you think they don't?

[Terry Davidson]

Not really - though I did get some big bills today

I will leave this thread leave you all to it but let me ask two simple questions -

Name me one player in the top 32 that just uses centre ball plain ball striking when playing snooker?

Why do you think they don't?

Nobody has ever said all good players or even any good players use centre-ball striking all the time. It's what you said, i.e. - all top pros use helping side on every shot. That just ain't true and I would say NONE of the top players use helping side on all shots. ALL of the top pros use side of some kind on SOME shots.