Master Blaster's Cueing Challenge

[Master Blaster]

Video posted below, noticed that the ball on black spot is too far from the cushion.

http://youtu.be/1lNgQg7XSdA

If you have good cue ball control the challenge isn't harder but if you're a 50 breaker it's gonna be tricky without cushions because a 50 breaker will over/under hit shots and use the cushions. All three challenges come from a an IBSF Master Coach/Examiner!

Anyway, well done! Right, time for you to try the top-spin only version of the test. Go on, give it a try.

[<CuePower>]

If you have good cue ball control the challenge isn't harder but if you're a 50 breaker it's gonna be tricky without cushions because a 50 breaker will over/under hit shots and use the cushions. All three challenges come from a an IBSF Master Coach/Examiner!

Anyway, well done! Right, time for you to try the top-spin only version of the test. Go on, give it a try.

Thanks - I was quite surprised. I did have a little go at the top spin today - not so good, maybe 10/11 out of the 21. TBH I'm not in the same league as you guys but the 1st challenge plays to my strength of stun, screw sort of with control, struggle with cushions mainly due to using excessive amounts of side. I'm not so good with follow though but will try it out again tomorrow.

[j6uk]

oh yeah, who?

If you have good cue ball control the challenge isn't harder but if you're a 50 breaker it's gonna be tricky without cushions because a 50 breaker will over/under hit shots and use the cushions. All three challenges come from a an IBSF Master Coach/Examiner!

Anyway, well done! Right, time for you to try the top-spin only version of the test. Go on, give it a try.

[bolton-cueman]

I was thinking the same....

[Master Blaster]

I was thinking the same....

I won't mention his name after the abuse TD got for his input on coaching on various threads. I'm not having the name of my Prof, who I have huge respect, being dragged through the mud by the orcs. I think it's appalling that coaches like TD, Nic, etc who come on here and give expert advice for FREE(!) cop a load of crapola off the zombies whose curmudgeon attitudes leave very little to be desired. I'm not having a go at you J6 or Bolton but you know who I mean.

Needless to say, I'd love to be able to claim that these cueing challenges were my own but unfortunately no. These challenges go up to pro level as Pottr (a county standard player) is finding out. But if you want to break build like Ding, you need to get down to the last mm. It's advanced stuff, even the 2nd challenge: pot the blue off its spot into the middle bags only (no cushions). Anyone who can do that 20 times has excellent cue ball control and sighting.

[vmax4steve]

These challenges go up to pro level as Pottr (a county standard player) is finding out. But if you want to break build like Ding, you need to get down to the last mm.

Rubbish, the best players learn to pot so well that they can play the cue ball into areas that give them options. No one is now , has been, or will ever be good enough for position play down to the last mm.

Let's all be like Les Edwards shall we, buy our own table, string three balls together and start entering tournaments and shake our heads in exasperation when it isn't happening.

[Master Blaster]

Rubbish, the best players learn to pot so well that they can play the cue ball into areas that give them options. No one is now , has been, or will ever be good enough for position play down to the last mm.

Let's all be like Les Edwards shall we, buy our own table, string three balls together and start entering tournaments and shake our heads in exasperation when it isn't happening.

Ok, maybe the last mm was a bit of an exageration but Ding is close. It's not rubbish at all, if you have to play for the black exactly with the pink tied up, you only have ONE option and that's when folk like Ding make the position and go on to hit a maxi and why most folk don't because they don't have the cue feel needed. Maybe if they did some advanced drills, they would. When Ronnie hit that magical 92 break he didn't have many options but he had great cue ball control and feel.

Have you attempted or done the challenges then V-Max? They're only a waste of time if you can already do them. Maybe you can't.

[j6uk]

blaster, im sure you've got loads of drills under your sack that your gonna take us through over time on this thread. but hay im back to practicing again this week after some time off i did three hours today doing the cross, T and lineups, had two maxes one being sequential, but im getting a bit bored of the same routines now..
please can you fast track me a few of your nuts routines? you know the high level stuff, ding stuff

[Master Blaster]

blaster, im sure you've got loads of drills under your sack that your gonna take us through over time on this thread. but hay im back to practicing again this week after some time off i did three hours today doing the cross, T and lineups, had two maxes one being sequential, but im getting a bit bored of the same routines now..
please can you fast track me a few of your nuts routines? you know the high level stuff, ding stuff

Hi man, glad to hear you're doing all this stuff, it sounds like you're really up there already, great standard.

Another cueing challenge is to pot the long blue from the baulk line. Line the shot up dead straight, to test how straight your cueing and sighting really is. Now pot the blue. Once you can get 9/10 you can move on to the advanced stuff, which is to pot the blue and pot the white in the same pocket with top spin (this adds cue power to the test).

[j6uk]

thanks,
yes iv been very familiar with all the straight cueing workouts for a few decades as you can imagine, at my best im doing 20/21 long blues with power and cueing follow through blues from the jaw of the pocket..
but really can you let me in on the top top ding stuff??

Hi man, glad to hear you're doing all this stuff, it sounds like you're really up there already, great standard.

Another cueing challenge is to pot the long blue from the baulk line. Line the shot up dead straight, to test how straight your cueing and sighting really is. Now pot the blue. Once you can get 9/10 you can move on to the advanced stuff, which is to pot the blue and pot the white in the same pocket with top spin (this adds cue power to the test).

[pottr]

I really don't think there's going to be a routine that's thrown up that we haven't seen in some form or another...

The only difference between a player of J6's standard and a player of Ding's standard is in the head anyway.

[Master Blaster]

I really don't think there's going to be a routine that's thrown up that we haven't seen in some form or another...

The only difference between a player of J6's standard and a player of Ding's standard is in the head anyway.

Ding is very good in the balls, really precise one of the ways he breaks build is with stuns and stun run-throughs. You can set up a cluster of reds and stun off the black into them or you do it the other way round, hit a red to free the black. Stun/screw into the flat pack off the black is a great shot to develop.

One drill to develop really accurate direction of the cue ball after object ball contact with top/plain/stun/screw is to put the pink on its spot with reds all around it in a semi-circle about two balls apart and about a foot away from the pink. The pink needs to travel into the bottom right pocket by passing the first red. Put the white ball next to the last red which should be between left middle pocket and the pink. Using, top, stun, run-through and screw, proceed to move the cue ball through each gap between the reds while potting the pink. A pass is making the cue ball go through each gap consecutively with no contacts on the reds. There's a bit of pressure in this test but you should be of a standard to do it, as will Pottr and OM.

An advanced version of this test of cue ball control is to have two more balls, let's say blue and black, that are about half a ball apart from each other. You can see them through the gap between the reds. The test now is to travel through the gap and hit the blue without moving it so much that it cannons the black. By moving the black and blue further out, you can improve how you direct the cue ball and how much momentum/travel it has.

[j6uk]

blasters a computer program

[Master Blaster]

blasters a computer program

LOL! I will try and do a photo tomorrow for folk so they can see this test with balls.

[golferson123]

blasters a computer program

I don't know how I learnt to play the game without these drills