Why isn't the Trump technique and Set-up now the Textbook Standard?

[ghost121]

Trump is already underachieving and no longer has the excuse of extreme youth or lack of experience. Why would you want to copy that? Surely it would make more sense to copy a rock-solid, easily repeatable action that didn't rely on spot-on timing that can break down under pressure. Particularly when most of us have limited natural talent and can't practise eight hours a day in ideal playing conditions.

[Master Blaster]

Trump is already underachieving and no longer has the excuse of extreme youth or lack of experience. Why would you want to copy that? Surely it would make more sense to copy a rock-solid, easily repeatable action that didn't rely on spot-on timing that can break down under pressure. Particularly when most of us have limited natural talent and can't practise eight hours a day in ideal playing conditions.

Underachieving? He's had a terrible season! Trump doesn't do enough practice, that's the only thing that affects his consistency. 3-4hrs a day isn't much compared to what Bingo et al. put in. Jimmy didn't practice much either but look at what he was capable of. If Trump dedicates himself properly, he will achieve his potential but that doesn't mean his technique isn't superior.

[ghost121]

Repeatable is more important than superior for the majority of amateur players. If you can have both, great, if not, consistency is key.

[bolton-cueman]

You got £50?! Would a charity get 50p?

I'm still waiting to see you do my challenges on video, 2mths and counting..............

insulting me won't change the bet mate. You offered to post a video, so I'm just extending a comment you posted.

I've never said I do any of your, or anyone else's challenges, on here so your second point is moot.

Like I said, £50 if you provide a video by Sunday.

Introduce yourself, play the shot, prove me wrong. If you do I'll give £50 to charity and I'll post a total apology to you on here. ADR is also getting in on the action, so a charity is going to get a fair sum because of you. Win.

Don't produce a video..... you'll just be the mouthpiece that I think you are.

[perpetualboredom]

Not that I'm putting my money on it, but I'm pretty sure my practise partner does it regularly! I certainly wouldn't be wagering it can't be done...

[ADR147]

Not that I'm putting my money on it, but I'm pretty sure my practise partner does it regularly! I certainly wouldn't be wagering it can't be done...

24 ft... I think unless you have a light white or a glass table it can't be done.

[andy carson]

insulting me won't change the bet mate. You offered to post a video, so I'm just extending a comment you posted.

I've never said I do any of your, or anyone else's challenges, on here so your second point is moot.

Like I said, £50 if you provide a video by Sunday.

Introduce yourself, play the shot, prove me wrong. If you do I'll give £50 to charity and I'll post a total apology to you on here. ADR is also getting in on the action, so a charity is going to get a fair sum because of you. Win.

Don't produce a video..... you'll just be the mouthpiece that I think you are.

both me and fred kite on here are near you mate so can say for you if the money does go to the charity....
come on master blagger, get the vid up, and on a super fast cloth the best i have seen ever is around 18 foot, but why bother its a useless shot to even bother trying or practicing unless you arent very good at positional play and going to end up on the trick shot tour on a 9 ball table

[Terry Davidson]

I have a light cueball here which came with my original (used) set of Pro Cup balls. I noticed it right away and weighed it at 117gms. With that cueball and placing the cueball about 1ft behind the green and off straight and with a fairly new 6811 Club cloth which is a decent speed I can still only get down to the top cushion and maybe back up to just short of the blue spot near the side cushion.

I would love to see a video of someone actually screwing the cueball 24ft with a sworn affidavit the cueball was weighed at 141gm.

I have seen some pretty wild videos of super screw shots but I was always suspicious of a light white since the player had nothing special in his technique. To me more impressive is a long shot cued from baulk with the object ball about 2ft from a top pocket and screwing in and out of baulk. I have seen that one done on a TV table (by Neil Robertson I think) but as has been said it's not done in a normal frame because the player can screw up into baulk for the safety or just short for the position. I think Neil actually over-hit that shot unintentionally.

[andy carson]

I have a light cueball here which came with my original (used) set of Pro Cup balls. I noticed it right away and weighed it at 117gms. With that cueball and placing the cueball about 1ft behind the green and off straight and with a fairly new 6811 Club cloth which is a decent speed I can still only get down to the top cushion and maybe back up to just short of the blue spot near the side cushion.

I would love to see a video of someone actually screwing the cueball 24ft with a sworn affidavit the cueball was weighed at 141gm.

I have seen some pretty wild videos of super screw shots but I was always suspicious of a light white since the player had nothing special in his technique. To me more impressive is a long shot cued from baulk with the object ball about 2ft from a top pocket and screwing in and out of baulk. I have seen that one done on a TV table (by Neil Robertson I think) but as has been said it's not done in a normal frame because the player can screw up into baulk for the safety or just short for the position. I think Neil actually over-hit that shot unintentionally.

remember shaun murphy used to play that shot a bit as well

[Master Blaster]

I have a light cueball here which came with my original (used) set of Pro Cup balls. I noticed it right away and weighed it at 117gms. With that cueball and placing the cueball about 1ft behind the green and off straight and with a fairly new 6811 Club cloth which is a decent speed I can still only get down to the top cushion and maybe back up to just short of the blue spot near the side cushion.

I would love to see a video of someone actually screwing the cueball 24ft with a sworn affidavit the cueball was weighed at 141gm.

I have seen some pretty wild videos of super screw shots but I was always suspicious of a light white since the player had nothing special in his technique. To me more impressive is a long shot cued from baulk with the object ball about 2ft from a top pocket and screwing in and out of baulk. I have seen that one done on a TV table (by Neil Robertson I think) but as has been said it's not done in a normal frame because the player can screw up into baulk for the safety or just short for the position. I think Neil actually over-hit that shot unintentionally.

I've got 1G balls Tel. Thing is, folk say it can't be done but they haven't used the Trump technique so they're saying it can't be done from that perspective. Do you think Judd could do it on a fast Hainsworth Precision mate?

[jrc750]

When you doing the video then ??

[bolton-cueman]

both me and fred kite on here are near you mate so can say for you if the money does go to the charity....
come on master blagger, get the vid up, and on a super fast cloth the best i have seen ever is around 18 foot, but why bother its a useless shot to even bother trying or practicing unless you arent very good at positional play and going to end up on the trick shot tour on a 9 ball table

Cheers lads. I'll post a screen shot of my payment, for sure.

[Leo]

Where are the balls positioned to get 24ft of screw back?

[billabong]

Where are the balls positioned to get 24ft of screw back?

on a 24' table, tilted at 5° from the horizontal. . .

[billabong]

You probably get at least 24' screwback on a nice heated, 3 cushion billiards table.

They just look like green painted slate that they play on. .