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  • #76
    Originally Posted by Byrom View Post
    Wow read this thread - where are my paracetamol?
    Im so glad we only had Atari computers when I started paying because if I was a beginner and read some of these coaching threads it would put me off the game for good.

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    • #77
      explaining aiming and sighting the first few session to a complete beginner would be useful so they know what to do and the mechanics involved in potting.

      however for those like me and many on this forum who have played for a few years it just complicates things. we all try and find any little tweak we can when things are going wrong, and end up going backwards and making things worse than they were to start with.

      I look at the good players in our club or those I have played over the years and see non of them stand behind the cueball line up the shot and get down.

      they just look at the object ball they want to play while walking round the table and get straight down and play it. all this is immediate they hardly stand for a second, so I am guessing they are still aiming while down, making micro adjustments.

      granted they are not pros , however good players and can pot very well. if they had more cueball control they could be a much higher level.
      Last edited by alabadi; 4 August 2015, 10:42 AM.

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      • #78
        I think if I told my lad where he was 'supposed' to be looking, it would halt his progress...

        Spot the line of the shot... Learn to deliver the cue through straight... And keep still.

        All there is too it. The rest is over analysis

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        • #79
          Originally Posted by pottr View Post
          I think if I told my lad where he was 'supposed' to be looking, it would halt his progress...

          Spot the line of the shot... Learn to deliver the cue through straight... And keep still.

          All there is too it. The rest is over analysis
          Well, I kept saying over and over again 'it's just not important' as long as you do whatever you do CONSISTENTLY (within some general limits of course)
          Terry Davidson
          IBSF Master Coach & Examiner

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          • #80
            Originally Posted by pottr View Post
            I think if I told my lad where he was 'supposed' to be looking, it would halt his progress...

            Spot the line of the shot... Learn to deliver the cue through straight... And keep still.

            All there is too it. The rest is over analysis
            Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion. I think for some people what you are both saying can end with them being a very good player, but it wouldn't have in my case. However much I practised, because naturally how I got down (even though it looked great to other people) actually placed a limitation on what I could achieve. Ten years (including not having played for three of those) of occasional play trebbled my scoring compared with the thirty years previously. The difference? Despite deteriorated eyesight, and increased physical limitations (a fifty year old battered body doesn't allow you to get down like a twenty year old), an analysis of process, an understanding of what was the aspiration, and a modification of technique, yielded a substantial improvement.

            If that's genuinely all you need to concern yourself with, you are very lucky. Me, not so lucky. That just wouldn't get me to any sort of standard.

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            • #81
              Right OK. Interesting thread. I'm off for the paracetamol too.
              Last edited by tedisbill; 4 August 2015, 12:29 PM.
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              • #82
                Originally Posted by tetricky View Post
                (even though it looked great to other people) actually placed a limitation on what I could achieve.
                this is true with me too, anyone who has seen me play for the first time , thinks I'm a pro. they dish out comment on how good my stance, bridge and approach is, and the way I cue nice and smooth.

                they say they wish they could do what I do. I keep telling them don't let looks deceive you. its not all about the way you look its how you play.

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                • #83
                  Originally Posted by alabadi View Post

                  I look at the good players in our club or those I have played over the years and see non of them stand behind the cueball line up the shot and get down.

                  they just look at the object ball they want to playwhile walking around the table and get straight down and play it. all this is immediate they hardly stand for a second, so I am guessing they are still aiming while down, making micro adjustments.
                  This is it in bold mate, looking at the target, that's all there is to it in order to find the line of aim, taking in the layout of the table and the position of the balls as you walk around the table. For sure you don't have to stop when you get to the cue ball and stand behind the shot as the info is already in your head, but there are many, many players who simply don't look and therefore struggle when down in the stance.

                  Nothing at all to do your head in with, just remember to look, give your brain the visual information it needs and it will do it all for you.

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                  • #84
                    Need suggestion

                    I m right handed player left eye dominant...
                    I mostly overcut shots to the left but i am good at the shots cut towards right...
                    I also have trouble determining the centre of cueball...
                    Can somebody help...?
                    Please

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                    • #85
                      Post a video

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                      • #86
                        I dont have it right now but i will upload it tomorrow from the club...

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                        • #87
                          Can u suggest some sure way of determining the centre of cueball...?

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                          • #88
                            Originally Posted by Rudraksh View Post
                            Can u suggest some sure way of determining the centre of cueball...?
                            That's a really good question, and despite being that simple isn't actually that trivial (unless you can visually pick the point naturally). Essentially, if you're looking down the cue, with the cue horizontal, it's the point at which there is an equal amount of ball around the impact point in all directions.....or actually the nearest point of the ball (tangentially, and from your point of view) to a horizontal cue along the line of the shot.

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                            • #89
                              Originally Posted by tetricky View Post
                              That's a really good question, and despite being that simple isn't actually that trivial (unless you can visually pick the point naturally). Essentially, if you're looking down the cue, with the cue horizontal, it's the point at which there is an equal amount of ball around the impact point in all directions.....or actually the nearest point of the ball (tangentially, and from your point of view) to a horizontal cue along the line of the shot.
                              -------heading for the medicine cabinet again

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                              • #90
                                Originally Posted by Byrom View Post
                                -------heading for the medicine cabinet again
                                Super Tramadol with a double JD to take the edge off
                                It's hard to pot balls with a Chimpanzee tea party going on in your head

                                Wibble

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