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  • #46
    THANK YOU NIC. For months I've been practicing to cue under my very dominant right eye and suffered confusing results. I'm right handed right eyed & right leg 7" behind my left leg when cueing. What's frustrating is that when I'm on form and hitting constant 40+ breaks, I realised that when I'm down on the shot, my cue alignment is a fraction off to the right. I tried correcting this by moving the head and using different chin position but still have not found my best position.

    Z.

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    • #47
      Originally Posted by Shockerz View Post
      When I used to play football and would shoot, did I look at the top left hand corner? No, it may have been in my peripheral position but it didn't stop the ball going there.
      I think that the analogy of a golfer looking at the ball at strike and what you say about striking a football cannot be used in the same context as snooker.

      for one reason you only have one target which is usually large. a footballer only has to hit a target that is hundred time the size of a football, a golfer has to hit a fairway or a green which again are large. ok once on the green they need to putt, and most golfers i have seen look at the hole when they putt.

      in snooker we are trying to send a ball to hit another ball and sending that ball into a pocket not much wider than the ball itself. we need to work out the angle the OB will travel to the pocket and then the angle and the path the cueball will need to take too, the margins for error are very small.

      i'm sure a complete beginner at snooker could send the cueball from the baulk area into any one of the top pockets 10/10 but would struggle to pot an OB that is 2 feet away.

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      • #48
        Originally Posted by Shockerz View Post
        I'm still sitting on the fence with the dominant eye issue.

        At different times I've been on the forum raving about the coach found my perfect position and form is now improving, other times my form hasn't improved quick enough and after seeing one of Nick video's (the one with the German fella in it who came over) I swapped to the centre of the chin with really good results.

        I've then struggled on particular shots and put the cue right under my right eye (which is way over from the chin) and potting them off the lampshades.

        Each time as been for a few months so the brain has ample time to adjust, what am I doing now?

        I'm back to the centre of the chin and form is pretty good. What's the answer? I haven't the foggiest as each has worked at different times and I know the brain has probably made allowances so I really don't know.

        If there were some way of proving it by certain shot's I would certainly give it a go but not convinced either way.
        Im in the exact same boat as you. I can pot pretty decent with both centre and dominant eye but then start missing shots and it always ties back to the uncertainty of knowing which is correct.

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        • #49
          Originally Posted by OmaMiesta View Post
          Im in the exact same boat as you. I can pot pretty decent with both centre and dominant eye but then start missing shots and it always ties back to the uncertainty of knowing which is correct.
          You have been warned

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          • #50
            Without trying to come across rude and I don't mean it to, but I seriously think those who have issues with their aiming etc have to accept that some people in life are better then others like in any sport. You are who you are.

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            • #51
              Originally Posted by Leo View Post
              Without trying to come across rude and I don't mean it to, but I seriously think those who have issues with their aiming etc have to accept that some people in life are better then others like in any sport. You are who you are.

              This is absolutely correct. Of course if you are less good 'naturally' you can maximise your potential with application (in terms of both technique, and practice), but some people will always be better than others. Some people (and I'm one of those) just have to accept their limitations and the fact that they will never be a century breaker.

              Some people have limitations (physical, eyesight, spatial awareness) that stop them ever being good, but that doesn't mean that they can't improve and enjoy the game.

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              • #52
                Originally Posted by tetricky View Post
                This is absolutely correct. Of course if you are less good 'naturally' you can maximise your potential with application (in terms of both technique, and practice), but some people will always be better than others. Some people (and I'm one of those) just have to accept their limitations and the fact that they will never be a century breaker.

                Some people have limitations (physical, eyesight, spatial awareness) that stop them ever being good, but that doesn't mean that they can't improve and enjoy the game.
                You wont improve and get your ton with that attitude - whilst some people don't learn that well others maybe can with a passion work hard at things to improve not just snooker but anything - you never stop learning in life and snooker is no exception. I don't like the attitude of can't do something accept it - if I want to do it and you love something then you can at least try and thinking you can do something is key to doing it.

                All a ton is - is two back to back 50's learn to clear the colours - learn the key shots, work on your technique to keep it consistent and sensory and stop thinking or getting held back by numbers just play the right shots, play the position and try and clear all the balls without being conscious of the numbers - just stay focused try and keep potting add them up after - start making them on line ups then in practice and then hopefully in match play as you can tell yourself you do this in practice and have done it.

                Be positive - don't listen to the negative side of your brain - it limits you
                Last edited by Byrom; 14 November 2015, 05:04 PM.

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                • #53
                  Bridge v and grip on line. Drop head straight down, it will go to the correct place over the cue as your brain sorts it out and bingo you're lined up!

                  To test this set up a straight pot, drop down and without feathering pull the cue back as soon as the cue touches your chin. You will be surprised at how straight you cue when you don't have time to think.

                  If you can't do the above then obviously your hand/eye coordination isn't very good and just enjoy whatever level you get to.

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                  • #54
                    Originally Posted by Byrom View Post
                    You wont improve and get your ton with that attitude.....Be positive - don't listen to the negative side of your brain - it limits you
                    That's not really the issue. I work 60+ hours a week (family business), still play football three times a week, and have family commitments. I have an hour (plus if it's at the wrong time) round trip to the snooker club. If I play five hours in a month it's a good month. The chances of me stringing 20-30+ pots together without running out of position, or missing one, are slim. That's just how it is.

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                    • #55
                      Originally Posted by tetricky View Post
                      That's not really the issue. I work 60+ hours a week (family business), still play football three times a week, and have family commitments. I have an hour (plus if it's at the wrong time) round trip to the snooker club. If I play five hours in a month it's a good month. The chances of me stringing 20-30+ pots together without running out of position, or missing one, are slim. That's just how it is.
                      Oh I see, yeah well in that case just enjoy it when you can

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                      • #56
                        Originally Posted by Leo View Post
                        Without trying to come across rude and I don't mean it to, but I seriously think those who have issues with their aiming etc have to accept that some people in life are better then others like in any sport. You are who you are.
                        I think people come to the coaching section for help
                        It's hard to pot balls with a Chimpanzee tea party going on in your head

                        Wibble

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                        • #57
                          Originally Posted by Byrom View Post
                          Oh I see, yeah well in that case just enjoy it when you can
                          It's very frustrating. Some excellent, some utter rubbish. For example, last night on a clearance I hit a fantastic half ball blue in the middle of the table, into the green pocket from around the pink. Ran all the way around the angles to drop perfectly on the pink (on the spot) just off straight into the middle (the right side off straight to have almost nothing to do to run through and hold for the black). About nine inches from the pink, perfect. Missed the pink far jaw.

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                          • #58
                            a lot of people saying trust your eyes actually have eyes you can trust lol

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                            • #59
                              1 x original post
                              1 x witticism from me
                              55 x posts basically saying everyone pretty much sights differently. Except for Vmax who is always right and whose posts are gospel (in his own head) - he probably invented eyes in the first place anyway, so we're all wrong.

                              I dread the minute when Sidd reads this thread.... there'll be an explosion in downtown Islamabad when his brain has yet another pointless thing to try and incorporate into his game.

                              #justSaying

                              yes I've been drinking.
                              #jeSuisMasterBlasterBarryWhite2v1977Luclex(andHisF ictiousTwin)BigSplash!

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                              • #60
                                Originally Posted by GeordieDS View Post
                                I think people come to the coaching section for help
                                And thats fair enough and help they'll get but for me people will never find their true level unless they put the hours in and find their own 2 feet, many adapt quicker and find their level, you can't possibly moan about not aiming or sighting or you can't do this or do that if you're spending 2hrs playing your pal up the club each day. You want things in life you have to work damn hard for it.

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