The Dominant Eye Theory Is Totally Wrong!

[Terry Davidson]

Poor thing.
Sight Right has a place in the market - although I have tried to bring an overall solution to the market which gives more benefits, quicker, and for less money.
I would be really interested to hear some reviews from clients who buy it and who also own the Sight Right.
Perhaps to give some side to side reviews and put a video or written review up.
The debate would gain a larger audience, and the market will benefit overall through more solutions being available.

I have a SightRight device here and frankly cannot find a good use for it with students, as it only works when you fremove the paper hiding the line extension and then only for a fraction of a second. I'm still baffled by the claim for the SightRight Cue though as the player has to place the cue first, check it, and then walk into the cue...which is not the way most players assume the address position.

Mistaken on my post on your other string, I didn't notice this post until after I made the comment.

[MattB147]

Hey Nic

I like your response. It was a complicated point I was trying to make in that even though my eyes went from 'uneven strength' to perfectly equal (near as dammit lol), my head positioning above the cue has remained the same. Also my cue is and always has been directly under the centre of my chin. I think I would like to try your product as an experiment and maybe/hopefully an improvement mechanism.....

Matt

[Byrom]

Poor thing.
Sight Right has a place in the market - although I have tried to bring an overall solution to the market which gives more benefits, quicker, and for less money.
I would be really interested to hear some reviews from clients who buy it and who also own the Sight Right.
Perhaps to give some side to side reviews and put a video or written review up.
The debate would gain a larger audience, and the market will benefit overall through more solutions being available.

So go on then cut to the chase stop with the teasing and lets have a shufty - there are already more coaches on these nik barrow marketing threads than Birmingham bus station - so just cut to the chase tell us how much it costs, show us what it is - how it helps and let me get on with making me tea.

[Shockerz]

Some players are totally under one eye - but VERY unusual to find someone who has trained their eyes to see the ball straight with BOTH eyes to one side of the cue.
Although i would not discount that the brain could do that.
I have never seen a player who can do that and be in their optimum eye alignment position

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Nic

I've seen the dominant eye debate agreed and disagreed by many coaches and players over the years with each sticking to their theory / opinion as obviously they need to to trust their personal coaching method, I'm sure both have good results although varied in performance improvement.

Some food for thought.

When I played darts I used to hold the dart about 1 foot off my right eye and would judder the hands and then flick it to the board, I won many competitions with truck loads of 180's and used to play with a super league player who I could hold my own with on most nights (although he was better). He threw the dart straight through from behind his head and through the line of his eye toward the target which I would assume was correct; enough to split matches when we practiced anyway.

When I used to play football and would shoot, did I look at the top left hand corner? No, it may have been in my peripheral position but it didn't stop the ball going there.

Some nights when you're game is on, you know the ball is going in before your hand touches the table and faster players probably don't even look at the pocket, cue up or do anything technical.

My point is this. I'm certain that a centre forward shoots with a picture of the goal in his mind as he is looking at the floor/ball when he kicks the ball. My eyes are no where near the dart or the standard flight line so I must be seeing with something else (the third eye?).

Maybe we all sit in more than one group when it comes to sighting (or not), maybe there are 2 maybe 3 overall groups as to how we see the shot.

If you said to a guy who cannot miss at snooker on the night and asked him how he was sighting or what had happened that was different, I bet they would say that they didn't rally see anything, something just took over and it was great. Because we cannot bottle it and explain it I think it just gets ignored.

Someone discussed being tired earlier and how it affected their performance. I agree with this but why should it if they have their modern day technique correct. I generally try and retain some energy a couple of days prior to matches and on the car journey work on flicking the happy switch (as salesman do prior to seeing their customers); It gives you as burst of energy and keeps you positive even if you were tired.

I still think there's a lot in the minds eye that we are missing.

[golferson123]

i recently tried contacts and needed varifocals the opt explained that the distance vision would be supplied by one eye and near sight by the other and my brain(whats left of it) would do the rest, moral of the story is don't mess with what comes naturally!

[golferson123]

Hi Matt
'Dominant' is different from 'Stronger' and it is vital that is understood.
AND just because one eye is stronger than the other, and just because EVERY player has a 'dominant' (I prefer to use the term 'preferred' as it does not get confused strength) eye...
does NOT mean they should under just one eye.
Advice to the contrary gives the players who come to see me more problems than any other theory in aiming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXEzWmhm5z0

thats not right nic as your vision alters as the distance alters,whats good at two feet is is not the same at twelve feet! let your eyes do the job! alignment yes preference no

[golferson123]

just reread your post and i think we agree

[Shockerz]

i recently tried contacts and needed varifocals the opt explained that the distance vision would be supplied by one eye and near sight by the other and my brain(whats left of it) would do the rest, moral of the story is don't mess with what comes naturally!

Funny that.

I wear normal disposable contacts for snooker and this is the best i've seen objects on the snooker table, up to 12 ft is fine.

Tried to play with my new vari-focals and can't pot a thing off to either side. After the one disaster match last year with them I went into the bathroom and all the grout lines went off at really strange angles so this explained why the middle pockets weren't where I was sighting.

With vari-focals I was told to turn my head to the object I am sighting. Turning your head compared with keeping your head on the cue and moving your eyes seems to be two different things.

Contact lenses fine for me anyway.

[tetricky]

Funny that.

I wear normal disposable contacts for snooker and this is the best i've seen objects on the snooker table, up to 12 ft is fine.

Tried to play with my new vari-focals and can't pot a thing off to either side. After the one disaster match last year with them I went into the bathroom and all the grout lines went off at really strange angles so this explained why the middle pockets weren't where I was sighting.

With vari-focals I was told to turn my head to the object I am sighting. Turning your head compared with keeping your head on the cue and moving your eyes seems to be two different things.

Contact lenses fine for me anyway.

You are me, and I collect my five pounds. There is nothing more frustrating than hitting the ball how you want to, and it hitting the jaw and coming out, because the pocket isn't quite where your eyes have told you. I can actually see the world distort around me as I use my peripheral vision. Practise and getting used to it, is the only solution....but anyone who doesn't have the problem, wont appreciate how it can set you back a bit. I don't practise enough to overcome this easily. I had half an hour last night and was hitting the ball pretty well. Didn't make more than six reds on the line up though, because of this problem.

[golferson123]

You are me, and I collect my five pounds. There is nothing more frustrating than hitting the ball how you want to, and it hitting the jaw and coming out, because the pocket isn't quite where your eyes have told you. I can actually see the world distort around me as I use my peripheral vision. Practise and getting used to it, is the only solution....but anyone who doesn't have the problem, wont appreciate how it can set you back a bit. I don't practise enough to overcome this easily. I had half an hour last night and was hitting the ball pretty well. Didn't make more than six reds on the line up though, because of this problem.

showing your age! chalkie white?

[tetricky]

showing your age! chalkie white?

Aye....but it's more the concept than the specifics.

[Byrom]

Sighting is an individual thing and I think you stick with what you naturally do that brings you the best results. Its Interesting how some players sight - players often play well with what others might regard as quirks

so lets add some players who seem to sight different starting with Gary Wilson

[Byrom]

Here is another example

[GeordieDS]

Sighting is an individual thing and I think you stick with what you naturally do that brings you the best results. Its Interesting how some players sight - players often play well with what others might regard as quirks

so lets add some players who seem to sight different starting with Gary Wilson

I don't know how he does it, i tried cueing under my right eye when i found out i was right eye dominant and i couldn't focus at all it was horrible

[Byrom]

I don't know how he does it, i tried cueing under my right eye when i found out i was right eye dominant and i couldn't focus at all it was horrible

Well Geordie all these coaches can say do this or that but look at the players and tell me any two that are exactly the same? Find your way build up a good solid set up a strong pre shot routine work on your consistency and stick with it - if it works for you that's the main thing.

In my mind a good coach is one that does not over complicate things and can work around a players individual style - work on your technique and work on your routines but there is never going to be a one size fits all for snooker. My advice is learn to filter what you like from what you don't like - that goes for any of my previous advice or anyone's . You can be your own best coach if you work hard enough.

Ps Gary looks like he really loves his cue - hugs it almost when he plays.