The Dominant Eye Theory Is Totally Wrong!

[hatterboard]

You may be coming off line when moving down into the shot position.
Also, when down on the shot, your head may not be in the correct position to see the shot correctly.
Lastly, it may be that both are correct but that your angle recognition is wrong and needs to be adjusted.

I initially thought that however, when sighting the shot before walking into it, I just bend my knees and for a cut or 1/4 ball the sight is different

[GeordieDS]

You are mad. They had just had proof today.

Bacon,egg and tomato please

[Ramon]

Ok, so google ocular strength and look at the reserch articles out there. 2/3 R eye dominant and 1/3 Left eye dominant mate; that doesn't add up to over 50% equal eye strength does it. It is always advised in sport to use the dominant eye unless faulty even if one eye is slightly stronger than the other. Didn't you know that? Folk in shooting, archery and darts have even swapped hands to accommodate the dominant eye.

hope u do'nt mind me asking a question.

What you'r saying here is , the eye dominant is the same as eye strength ??
I mean, u could have a equal eye strength on ur both eyes but still, useing one of them as ur dominant eye in this game .
u do'nt agree ??

[itsnoteasy]

I believe the head falls where it needs to and isn't something you should stress over.

An example of this; a good friend of mine, countless tons, top junior and now in his thirties. He is left handed and cues below his right eye/right side of the chin. Photos from his junior days show he cued dead centre. I pointed it out to him and he has no clue when it happened and didn't do it consciously.

This is it for me, post number two lol, we could have all just agreed and went home happy

[guernseygooner]

This is it for me, post number two lol, we could have all just agreed and went home happy

You know it Jim

[j6uk]

dont wanna be ramberling on the prairie when this shooter's around

[jonny66]

Pick up the cue, get down on the shot, pot the ball. Easier said than done, otherwise this forum would not exist. On a side note I'm getting sick of all the bickering on here, most of the threads I just scroll past. I would start a new thread specifically for name calling, but I know no-one would use it.

[markz]

Have tried for 10 months on and off to contact that company, no reply whatsoever
Email and text message

Try Twitter, their account is active all the time.

[barrywhite]

So to prove how easy it is to use the dominant eye and cue in the 'correct' position, I've run an experiment this week by moving my cue from R of chin back to the groove. If everything else stays the same, I should miss long blues 10/10 times, given that I was cueing straight before and potting these blues. And I did. The cue is obviously in the 'wrong' position for me on my chin so I should miss.

To adjust for the change in cue position, I changed my stance, back, head position and bridge (more bent) so that I could now cue straight and pot the long blues. My L shoulder was flatter, down on the table and my shoulder and R arm more cocked. This allowed the cue to be under my chin groove but to also be arced out, fooling the R eye into believing the cue looks straight. We are now angling across the chin more so than under R chin, where the cue was closer to being under my R eye. Under middle chin is a classic set-up. Now I'm cueing dead straight and potting like a dream with my cue in a different chin position. Then I moved the cue back under R chin with the new set-up, and fortunately, missed every ball (a different chin position on a working set-up should fail!). I could even play under my L chin as a R eye dominant player by bending my L knee inwards and moving the cue butt outwards, thus continuing in an extreme way to fool my R eye that the cue is straight.

This result shows that it isn't possible to simply move the cue under the chin to either miss balls or pot them and thus utilise your dominant eye in a 'correct way'. What goes along with that chin position change is an adjustment in body form, you need to alter at least one of your stance, head, body, cue arm and bridge arm and most people will alter all of these because body parts and muscle groups affect each other. And you still need to cue dead straight afterwards.

In all of this I've assumed that I and you are doing everything else well so that misses or pots aren't dependent on bad technique. You don't need a coach to do some sort of orthoptic assessment and tell you where to put your cue, you can put it where you like and set-up your body form to suit where you've put it, that's what most people unconsciously do when they learn the game, such as the greatest, Ronnie. Because potting the most difficult balls proves you are either doing something right or something wrong. If you fail, alter your set-up until you pot them. Then practice that set-up for years on end until it's natural.

Mark Allen has his cue up the side of his face, no doubt Nic would disagree with that but Mark makes it work really well. I could do the same with the cue as Mark does but I just don't like the feel of the cue there, so it's not to my preference and I'm not sure I'd enjoy the set-up changes that go with it. Ronnie cues to the left of chin for his dominant L eye, Judd to the right of his Chin for his dominant R eye, as does Robbo. Each to their own, it works for them incredibly well, these are the best potters in the game. There is no right and wrong place to put a cue, what is pertinent in all cases is players obeying their dominant eye so that when they look down that cue, the cue is appears straight to the dominant eye and that with the new body form, they cue dead straight. How they achieve it with set-up is variable and there is no right or wrong solution. There will inevitably be compromises between how a player forms their body and their dominant eye, so that the set-up is comfortable. This is vitally important.

But if you really feel that potting the balls and adjusting your body shape or cue/chin position accordingly isn't going to work, get Sight Right fitted to your cue and adjust according to Sight Right; the same thing really except you get a guide to help you.