Learn Potting Angles In Seconds...

[Nic Barrow]

Advice

This is all getting beyond the joke thats pending on embarrassing IMO. Get down the bloody club and practice your aiming and sighting and use the best tool of all your brain. If your brain isn't quite as developed as others when sighting the ball then keep going until it does. Enough said on these pathetic threads.

Thanks for the advice.
But telling kids to learn to ride a bicycle without stabilisers doesn't always work as quickly as when using stabilisers.
Some kids are very talented at it though, and wouldn't need them.

[Nic Barrow]

lololololol

Thankyou for your opinion.

[Nic Barrow]

On a more serious note ( just slightly) could you take this in the club? I don't think I would have the cojones for the absoloute ripping I would get, even if it worked I just couldn't do it.

It is for practice sessions and confirming your angle recognition.
You only need to set it up once - which takes around one minute - to practice a certain angle.
You can always do that a little earlier in the evening if you want to learn the potting angles by stealth without anyone finding out ;-)
They may then come asking you why your potting is so much better though.... which is the opposite of ribbing!

[Nic Barrow]

No I meant the real thing, Nics paper aiming thing.I take sweets in the club all the time although my wine gums training aid never really came to much appart from me needing a filling after three years of dedication!

Taking something you know to be true, looking at it again and discovering that its completely wrong is a wonderful thing, it's called learning.
Prof Lawrence Krauss.

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[Nic Barrow]

Good luck with it, Nick.

Cue sports needs innovation, whether established players need them or not. We should remember there are other players further down the pefking order, who may need help with the more basic elements of the game.

Thank you for the positive comments.
I was wondering when I was going to get one on this thread!

[Nic Barrow]

Thanks

Well said mr big shot, thread back on track, am sure us down the pefking order will learn from this.
Good luck Nic.
Cheers Ricky

Thanks Ricky

[Nic Barrow]

Did everyone else get an email promoting this too?

I also liked the drama of the phrase "4 years of testing"

There is no drama to it - other than the fact that the product was initially conceptualised back then.
Wanting to make sure it got the the market 'doing what it says on the tin' was sooooo difficult than I cannot possibly describe it.
After year one, I virtually hated the sight of it due to the testing headaches it gave us.
But the immediate benefit I saw players get from it pushed me on...
If anyone else on this forum has ever brought a product to market themselves, they will know what I am referring to...

Ultimately, even very regular hundred break players have benefited from using it - although there is not one product on the market that suits everyone.

[Nic Barrow]

I think his best quote was regarding the creation of the table image he has in the pdf guides... "years battling with his graphic designer to get it perfect' (or words to that effect)

I did battle my graphic designer on and off for 18 months when I was in Dubai until he got the table templates perfect.
I refused to settle for anything less, and heartily admit being a maniac for precision.
Am I right to go to those lengths? I feel slightly crazy and unhinged when I am silently pushing through these projects and get a lot of negative self talk from time to time.
However, at the end of each of these tunnels of progress, I have never regretted the toil of going through that process.
The benefits to the clients who do need the solution that a product offers are very gratifying to see.
Some don't want to hear what those benefits may be - and that is perfectly ok.
Some are ambivalent.
Some love certain products.
At the end of the day I am here to serve a certain market - and I am not for everybody and neither should I be.
My target is to position myself so clearly that people know instantly whether they love me or hate me - a bit like Marmite?!

[Nic Barrow]

You're all going to get banned :hopelessness:

Now I can see new forum members and those returning from their bans are going to have to sign the TSF members contract where you're not allowed to have a dig at the sponsors.

To be perfectly honest maybe this aim frame thing will help those who cannot see the angles, and j6's Tuca trainer will get you a straight cue action, but the real talent for snooker is a natural hand/eye co-ordination that makes you hit what you're looking at, coupled with years of hard practise and the development of a concise intelligence for the game.

No training aid is going to give you that, you have to get on the table not the ironing board.

Now what's in your snooker stocking for xmas ?

How about a pair of glasses so that you can see the balls better,
try these out, one lens for the right eye, one for the left and another for the vision centre,

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or these, match the lines on the frames to the angles of the shot and try not to get cross eyed

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It goes back to the stabilisers analogy
when you learned to ride a bike, you obviously never needed any stabilisers.
Some are not as talented as you though... and do need stabilisers.

[Nic Barrow]

That a good point actually Jonny, I could see players not even looking at the object ball at all, and as soon as you are back in a real frame, you've learnt absolutely nothing.

Once you set up the aim ball in the correct position, you then transfer the eyes to the object ball.
That will confirm what the correct potting angle looks like.
Most players below pro standard in some way are not aligning their vision centre properly or not recognising all potting angles properly.
Even some at that level are not aligned properly, so no one is immune to coming off centre over time.
Hence the value in being able to confirm or correct one's vision centre, angle recognition or feedback on straight cueing delivery.
Without proper feedback on this, it is impossible to diagnose whether we missed because of cueing or because of aiming.

[Nic Barrow]

I am yet to get one but I hear good results are common in which case it is for nothing!

What do you mean good results are common?

[Nic Barrow]

I haven't got round to watching all the videos yet, none of them actually, I have to send him an email for that, which I haven't yet.

If you have not watched them yet - then are you in any position to judge it.
Especially if you were given one complimentary (from who I don't know) - to slate it without a full trial is simple bad manners.

[Nic Barrow]

I think a lot of you are missing the point here. Nic has come up with a practice aid that achieves more than one thing, and it isn't necessarily aimed at all you cueing experts who knock in tons for fun.

Most of us find the game quite hard actually and we yearn to have the skill and knowledge that you all so clearly possess on the forum.

Nic has spent a long time gathering data to allow for a phenomenon known as 'collision induced throw' - something that a lot of players, experts included, don't even know exists. It is this data, gathered in a scientific way using his potting robot, that had enabled him to create his template. Yes, you might say, it's only a piece of card with some holes in it.. but it's the information behind it that is important.

As an acupuncturist friend of mine once said, anyone can stick a load of needles in someone - but only a person with the knowledge knows where to put them to get them to work..

If you use Nic's aim frame diligently, two things will happen - you will realize you don't know as much about aiming as you thought you did, and secondly that you are probably cueing with errors to compensate for your misinformed aim.

To me, that is valuable information and so what if it takes a bit of cardboard with holes in it, to find this out?

I count Nic as a friend of mine and as a very good coach who has helped my game considerably. Yes, I'm still pretty useless but as I said before we aren't all blessed with snooker talent. I am good at other things, so when it comes to snooker I just try to enjoy the game and the process of getting better. Nic's device is one of many that will help me do that. I know for a fact the amount of time and research that has gone into it and I find it a little sad and pathetic that so many just choose to take the p~~~ rather than congratulate someone for coming up with a method of improving people's understanding and therefore enjoyment of the game.

Nic won't be getting rich with this product, Far from it, he'll probably lose money, but he won't mind. He does well enough with all the coaching he does. He will just take a lot of satisfaction, even if it helps just one player.

If you don't like it, don't buy it. But slagging it off just to get your kicks whilst you are bored sitting at your work desk, serves no useful purpose and may just turn a beginner away from a product that may well accelerate his or her enjoyment of the game that we are all supposed to love.

Thank you very much sixofclubs.
I really appreciate the comments.
And you are spot on.
Even if I sold 1,000 of these units at £24.95 or so I would still lose money on it.
ANYONE who has brought a product to market knows how difficult it is.
Reading all the threads on here from players who are seemingly perfect at snooker and cannot improve made me wonder whether I should bother contributing anything to this forum again.
Is the grief really worth it.
It won't really cost me much if I don't....
However, there seems a sliver of rationality and reasonableness here so will knuckle down and keep replying to threads and see where it goes...

[Nic Barrow]

It's not about slagging it off because people are bored. People are just giving their opinion as to whether the product is useful or not. That's fine isn't it? Why should everyone just say they think it's great and really useful when they don't think it is?

They absolutely shouldn't
A fair trial would be nice though ;-)

[Nic Barrow]

It's not about slagging it off because people are bored. People are just giving their opinion as to whether the product is useful or not. That's fine isn't it? Why should everyone just say they think it's great and really useful when they don't think it is?

I did ask a couple of people if they would like to do a complete side by side test with the Sight Right board...
Is anyone happy to do that?
I had a forum member offer to do it if I sent one free - but I said that would not be a credible result because they would of course be inclined to favour my product in any result.
Would be very happy to see any fair and full side by side tests if anyone has brought both.