Learn Potting Angles In Seconds...

[Alba_]

2 and half weeks of his ban left. Maybe 3

That gives him a bit of time to concentrate on his Christmas shopping then

[jonny66]

If you have not watched them yet - then are you in any position to judge it.
Especially if you were given one complimentary (from who I don't know) - to slate it without a full trial is simple bad manners.

I haven't slated it, I even said I liked it, I understand you're on the defensive here but I think you're being a little over sensitive. I'm just giving my opinion, I'm not just going to say I think it's brilliant because you gave me a free copy. Yes Nic, that's who sent me a free copy, you did.

[Nic Barrow]

Well Nic there is something strange going on because the owner of this site told us this was a paid for advertisement , so I took that as truthful , but it looks like someone's got their wires crossed ,if it's me I apologise in advance.
I can only speak on my own behalf and for me I would love you to contribute more ,I dont think anyone would object to having one of the worlds top coaches helping.
You say we have freedom of speech ,unfortunately that has been proved false in this situation hasn't it ,as it has led to a well liked member receiving a ban, are you saying you didn't complain to the owner or any admin about any of the posts on this thread?
Lastly ,personally I applaud you trying to innovate new things and as I said before you are an extremely successful coach possibly the number one ,unfortunately knowing the British psych we do like to knock the top dog with a bit of humor, I don't think ( I certainly hope not) anything said was really meant as a personal insult to you, more a mixture of ribbing of the top dog that should be big enough to take it and fair opinion of what has been presented on here ,as you admit, unless you have seen the extra videos it is easy to mistake what this product actually does.
Maybe in the Christmas spirit or just as a nice gesture you could ask the owner to lift the ban on the member, and we could all learn something from this situation and move on.
Oh by the way welcome and merry Christmas 
Just checked Nic , if you go to information- a few forum changes- post number sixty, it clearly states these are paid for advertisements.

I do pay a monthly banner fee for my other products on the forum.
So I wasn't paying to put these posts up - although any sales that come from TSF I will give a fee to Ferret (so we should see him retiring to Monaco soon!)
OK I may do a post asking what people have big problems with.
Player's upside will be some access to my experience, my upside will be finding out what frustrates people the most - which can only help refine my products and services in the future.
Bear in mind I put 70 hours into my business per week, am overwhelmed with responding to enquiries coming in every day as it is, and don't even post in my own forum any more.

What was really frustrating for me was that I was getting email notifications for all my previous posts before the product launch and replying to them (as I felt it respectful to do). However for this one, I got NONE - which I found a little surprising.
It was only when someone told me yesterday afternoon that I was getting slated that I logged in and saw all the posts.
So then I got a little grumpy as I couldn't believe the tone of the posts - and my fiancee thought I was grumpy with her!
Imagine someone slandering me by saying I am a liar for saying the product took four years to develop - a ridiculous statement.

Here is the email i sent to ferret at 1.15am last night regarding the post from the member who got himself banned:
'Are you happy with this kind of post – or do you let them ride?'
Kev told me had been banned already and I agree with that decision.
If it was my forum I would do the same as it went beyond banter.
And I wouldn't spend any time in a forum if that sort of comment went unchecked.

Yes if he emails me on nic147@thesnookergym.com we can sort it out?

[Nic Barrow]

Yep.

I only play with the 1G Set and while the full 15 Reds does get a bit crowded when they are opened playing with 10 is also cool.

Some photos here as it just got fully re clothed in Strachan 6811 30oz and Empire running rails fitted not long ago to and it plays like a dream, 3pce slate by one of Australias best table makers.







Exactly 79mm pockets at the throat and she is tight who spits out a lot of balls! My local club table (12ft) has bigger pockets than this!

Lovely looking table

[Nic Barrow]

Nic - i would think you stand a better chance of success by pitching this to the american pool market, as CIT etc are much bigger factors than in snooker, and americans in general have lousy fundamentals.

They are also much more receptive to new ideas and products.

Yes looking at that.
And thank you for the suggestion...
The investment would not be that great now that all the ground work has been done.

[Nic Barrow]

Also to get back on topic i am wanting the Aim Frame to correctly set up for me a Pink off its spot with the Cue ball in the D from either the Yellow or Green spot.

This is very difficult and not easy with such a delicate cut and i am at less than 2-3/10 on average practicing this with the odd fluke session having me at 6/10 once but i have never repeated that! The aim frame setting up this exact angle would be invaluable IMO even if i need a string line to get the exact line of aim from the Aim frame itself back the the D where the Cue ball is for exact correct position.

My opinion on that is to shorten the distance to the pot until you are regularly at 6/10 or so.
Then gradually build up the skill until you can do it from further back up the table.
Cueing becomes increasingly an issue the longer the distance to the object ball.
Also, the thinner the potting angle the less margin of error you have than with a straight pot over the same distance.
Because the face of the object ball on full ball gives a wider margin for sending the object ball straight ahead than when one has a fine cut - where the cue ball will wrap further around the edge of the ball for a given sideways direction error.
This is easily proved with an on table demo so just take it as fact for now...

Yes the Aim Frame would help you see that shot correctly
Whether you pot it is then up to your cueing.

[Nic Barrow]

What do you mean 79mm at the throat? Are you saying your pockets are 3.11" wide at the fall

Very congested for making 147s with full sized balls!

[Nic Barrow]

I haven't slated it, I even said I liked it, I understand you're on the defensive here but I think you're being a little over sensitive. I'm just giving my opinion, I'm not just going to say I think it's brilliant because you gave me a free copy. Yes Nic, that's who sent me a free copy, you did.

Saying its just a piece of card with holes cut out is over simplifying things and shows you don't understand what it does.
To have also got the price wrong and say you wouldn't buy it without having even watched the videos is a premature judgement.
If you were given a complimentary copy for whatever reason, then fair play says explore it properly first before judging it so that your review has credibility.
What is your name - as I dont know who I am speaking with.
Or email me to tell me please.

[svendh]

It's very sad which way this thread went, and even more because the wider context is something we all should have fun with: playing snooker. I personally would like to say thanks to nic because he is the most active coach out there and helps a lot of players enjoying the game even more. And there is nothing wrong at all running a business.

[Chappy5]

I measured the IBSF templates and they are 83mm and I have also measured the WPBSA templates (drawings) and they have the same width but a more generous undercut and fall. I believe the old B&SCC templates, before the IBSF, were at 85mm but could be wrong as have never had the chance to measure them except for drawings

I have played on the actual table that was used in the 2014 "Bendigo Goldfields Open" as it is on display in a local club here in Melbourne and available for hire, i also measured the pockets and it was bang on 80mm at all corner pockets!

[Chappy5]

My opinion on that is to shorten the distance to the pot until you are regularly at 6/10 or so.
Then gradually build up the skill until you can do it from further back up the table.
Cueing becomes increasingly an issue the longer the distance to the object ball.
Also, the thinner the potting angle the less margin of error you have than with a straight pot over the same distance.
Because the face of the object ball on full ball gives a wider margin for sending the object ball straight ahead than when one has a fine cut - where the cue ball will wrap further around the edge of the ball for a given sideways direction error.
This is easily proved with an on table demo so just take it as fact for now...

Yes the Aim Frame would help you see that shot correctly
Whether you pot it is then up to your cueing.

Cheers Nic and i will try that!

Reason i asked is because it came up in a game once at home where there was only 2 balls on the table in the Black and Pink ( Both on their spots ) and my opponent had the White in the D as i went in off the shot before on the Pink, it was a tight game and he needed only the Pink to win and he took the Pink on from the Green spot and blardy potted it to beat me!

I made him do it again and he is lucky to be 1 from 10 after that 1 shot and he just fluked it to beat me which got me practicing it as it is a very difficult cut.

[const]

great product very informative well done worth every pennny

[Chappy5]

Very congested for making 147s with full sized balls!

Can be done!

My coach was on a 147 break on my table but missed the Yellow in a difficult shot after potting all 15 Reds with Blacks!

I was in amazement actually!

[itsnoteasy]

Taking something you know to be true, looking at it again and discovering that its completely wrong is a wonderful thing, it's called learning.
Prof Lawrence Krauss.

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Haha, touché !young man. I missed this post and as I try to be a man of my word I will order one of these and try hard with it and only then can I give an honest opinion of it. When I say try hard I mean over weeks if not months, not ten minutes ( if anyone asks in the club I will say I'm doing some product development for someone lol,)

[Ramon]

I cannot praise it enough as to how it plays as well and it is really a credit to Harry Evans who made it and his tables are worth a fortune with many 12ft tables he makes fetching over 15k here locally.

He has one 12 foot table in his showroom that he wants 50k for that it is magnificent and over 100 years old! That is how long he has been producing Snooker and Billiard tables here in Melbourne Australia with a reputation that is 2nd to none here currently, as the family business has gone through 3 generations of table makers and still very strong but very expensive.

Lots of people struggle on this 9 x 4.5 Snooker table of mine as it can be very hard to pot on especially the middle bags with pace as it will spit them out unless you are 100% accurate, but i love it!

Great for my kids to ( 6yo and 11yo ) to learn on and they spend more time on it than me!

Start playing so young , own table, and his father as a coach.
That's a great opportunity for children ! ( maybe the future N Robertson ? ).
btw, i saw Neil Robertson won the UK Championship. A great player from Australia.
congratulations.