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  • #46
    We all use different methods and I know I don't use the 1/2 ball 1/4 method

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    • #47
      3/4 pink

      I also have never used the 3/4 or 1/2 ball in my matches. but since the black ball video and this pink vid I have added these to my practice routines to help gain confidence of these ball in matches.
      And results in matches seems to give credence to these routines
      (hence me asking for the blue video )
      Up the TSF! :snooker:

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      • #48
        Originally Posted by bricktip View Post
        Can you explain more about the 1/2 ball and 3/4 ball concept? I've never really understood the 1/2 ball, 3/4 ball concept. Surely there are a lot of shots that are inbetween, so it can only be useful for a limited number of shots?
        theres no concept here with what im revealing, it simply the tables geometry. just staying with the pink at 3/4, if you try what im showing in this video you should (recognise the structure-two key words) and then be able to see the same plus similar angles and repeat them in realtime play

        Last edited by j6uk; 13 December 2015, 10:09 AM.

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        • #49
          Originally Posted by bluenose1940 View Post
          I've said many times on this forum that I learn so much from fellow contributors. Most of you are aware of the fact that I am a grey haired old whatsit who is doing his utmost to improve his game. I like to think that I have a bit of Judd trump in me (lol) with some of my shots. I ALWAYS play for position, rather than just rolling a red in and hoping that I can see a colour to have a go at. I just love potting a baulk colour of its spot and screwing all the way down the table for the next red, watching the curve on the cue ball is really quite exciting. I am still only putting together breaks in the 20 to 30 range but I did have a nice 43 the other day. I also went through the baulk colours and got to the pink which was on its spot, the black was tight on the side cushion halfway between the top cushion and the blue spot and I managed to pot the pink and get the black out into a pottable position and then MISSED IT! Grrrrrrrr!.

          Oh! my safety play has also improved enormously too. I just wish that I had taken up this game much earlier in my life.

          My comment on the 3/4 pink was made because the 'ghost ball' in the video really does look 'thinner' to me. Perhaps that's why I can't make higher breaks more consistentl. I do tend to miss shots from both ends of the table into the middle pocket very frequently, I always tend to hit the far jaw. I think that this would indicate that I am aiming too full. Would anyone agree?

          To give you an idea as to how my mind works when potting. Obviously a full ball shot is centre cue ball to centre object ball, for a 3/4 shot I aim centre cue ball to a point mid-way between centre and extreme edge of the object ball, for a 1/2 ball shot I aim centre cue ball at the extreme edge of the object ball and, for a 1/4 ball shot I aim centre cue ball at an imaginary point approximately half an inch outside of the edge of the object ball. Am I getting that right?
          yeah i use to love a bit of flare, but there came a time when technically i threw up my hands in frustated admittence and said whats going on. i then hit the road in search of that.. then there was another point when i put down the cue and got down to studying the table.
          searching the angles for postition is a sign of a nice playier i think and your angle recognition seems to be pretty good

          Originally Posted by Leo View Post
          We all use different methods and I know I don't use the 1/2 ball 1/4 method
          can you describe or is it simply arbitrary?

          Originally Posted by DeanH View Post
          I also have never used the 3/4 or 1/2 ball in my matches. but since the black ball video and this pink vid I have added these to my practice routines to help gain confidence of these ball in matches.
          And results in matches seems to give credence to these routines
          (hence me asking for the blue video )
          so some wins via the threads then?
          hold tight the blues on its way


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          Last edited by j6uk; 13 December 2015, 10:58 AM.

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          • #50
            Originally Posted by j6uk View Post
            so some wins via the threads then?
            hold tight the blues on its way
            some improvement has been noticed yes, as bluenose says, learnt much from many threads on the forum
            blue - looking forward to it :wink:
            Up the TSF! :snooker:

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            • #51
              heres another 3/4, some see it thicker or thinner depending what side of the ball their playing, relatvie being right or left handed, is the pocket to the right or the left, and side of the table their playing from





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              Last edited by j6uk; 13 December 2015, 11:07 AM.

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              • #52
                can you describe or is it simply arbitrary?
                Not sure how to describe it TBH, just years of knowing where to hit the ball I suppose, if I see a shot I don't say to myself I better hit that half ball, my brain has automatically focused on where to it if you see what I mean, that's why I would be crap at teaching someone

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                • #53
                  Originally Posted by Leo View Post
                  Not sure how to describe it TBH, just years of knowing where to hit the ball I suppose, if I see a shot I don't say to myself I better hit that half ball, my brain has automatically focused on where to it if you see what I mean, that's why I would be crap at teaching someone
                  Same here, never even crossed my mind this 3/4 ball stuff, your brain should be able to work out where to hit it, practice is what's needed, if you still can't work it out maybe snooker is the wrong game for you ☺

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                  • #54
                    Originally Posted by jrc750 View Post
                    Same here, never even crossed my mind this 3/4 ball stuff, your brain should be able to work out where to hit it, practice is what's needed, if you still can't work it out maybe snooker is the wrong game for you ☺
                    Spot on...

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                    • #55
                      Originally Posted by Leo View Post
                      Not sure how to describe it TBH, just years of knowing where to hit the ball I suppose, if I see a shot I don't say to myself I better hit that half ball, my brain has automatically focused on where to it if you see what I mean, that's why I would be crap at teaching someone
                      Originally Posted by jrc750 View Post
                      Same here, never even crossed my mind this 3/4 ball stuff, your brain should be able to work out where to hit it, practice is what's needed, if you still can't work it out maybe snooker is the wrong game for you ☺
                      we will always miss and loose position, but as you improve things like this become a solid foundation in which to build a strong game upon. go from ball picker to player

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                      • #56
                        Originally Posted by j6uk View Post
                        we will always miss and loose position, but as you improve things like this become a solid foundation in which to build a strong game upon. go from ball picker to player
                        You do make me laugh

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                        • #57
                          Originally Posted by Leo View Post
                          You do make me laugh
                          are you sure, can you explane why?

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                          • #58
                            Originally Posted by j6uk View Post
                            heres another 3/4, some see it thicker or thinner depending what side of the ball their playing, relatvie being right or left handed, is the pocket to the right or the left, and side of the table their playing from





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                            this image is more of 3/4 J6. its just the one in your number 3 vid was thinner and looked more half ball. maybe the camera angle wasn't directly behind the shot as you take it, looked like it was slightly left and this would make a difference.

                            from the image i tool a still and did some photoshop not to disprove you but just to explain how it looked to me and some of the other members.

                            so here it is

                            3qtrpnk copy.jpg

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                            • #59
                              Originally Posted by alabadi View Post
                              this image is more of 3/4 J6. its just the one in your number 3 vid was thinner and looked more half ball. maybe the camera angle wasn't directly behind the shot as you take it, looked like it was slightly left and this would make a difference.

                              from the image i tool a still and did some photoshop not to disprove you but just to explain how it looked to me and some of the other members.

                              so here it is

                              [ATTACH]18210[/ATTACH]
                              Alibaldi it was a 1/2 ball

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                              • #60
                                Originally Posted by alabadi View Post
                                this image is more of 3/4 J6. its just the one in your number 3 vid was thinner and looked more half ball. maybe the camera angle wasn't directly behind the shot as you take it, looked like it was slightly left and this would make a difference.

                                from the image i tool a still and did some photoshop not to disprove you but just to explain how it looked to me and some of the other members.

                                so here it is

                                [ATTACH]18210[/ATTACH]
                                thanks for that baddi and without being controvercial, all the shots on this thread are 3/4. im putting the ball in the same place as the 3/4 you were trying into the corner and its the same shot so, its impossible. 1/2 would be inbetween that point and the black

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