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  • #31
    Originally Posted by alabadi View Post
    J6 looking at the Part 3 & 4 video, when you use the ghost ball to line up , it looks thinner than 3/4 ball more like half ball. it looks like the ghost ball is covering half the OB

    it and depends on the camera angle you have, but to me they look thinner than 3/4. i will have to set this up and check it out myself
    i think with the shadows and that that camera angle its not quite clear, but the best way is to try the shots and if you can put a video up. i felt i was potting those just like i would do a 3/4 ball black, no difference

    Originally Posted by alabadi View Post
    here is my efforts J6

    good to watch. i could see you timing them a little better and with more pace. on that table you should be coming off the second cushion and out into the middle of the table
    and looks like you should put some work into finding your center ball


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    Last edited by j6uk; 7 December 2015, 05:20 PM.

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    • #32
      Originally Posted by j6uk View Post



      good to watch. i could see you timing them a little better and with more pace. on that table you should be coming off the second cushion and out into the middle of the table
      and looks like you should put some work into finding your center ball


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      Yes if I used more pace I would come int the middle of the table, however that's not what I was trying to do. All I wanted was to see what angle the white came off the first cushion

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      • #33
        Originally Posted by alabadi View Post
        Yes if I used more pace I would come int the middle of the table, however that's not what I was trying to do. All I wanted was to see what angle the white came off the first cushion
        yes but that may change with pace, and its more realistic to play the white to come back off the cushion

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        • #34
          Originally Posted by j6uk View Post
          theres a bit more to get into on this type shot but heres a few for yous to have a look at

          To find high 3/4 ball pink ,level with blue ,in to first quarter ?
          Is the stick we see near the Cush in the other video to divide the table into eighths?
          This is how you play darts ,MVG two nines in the same match!
          https://youtu.be/yqTGtwOpHu8

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          • #35
            Originally Posted by itsnoteasy View Post
            To find high 3/4 ball pink ,level with blue ,in to first quarter ?
            yes
            Is the stick we see near the Cush in the other video to divide the table into eighths?
            no thats a prop for my logo tripod

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            • #36
              Originally Posted by j6uk View Post
              no thats a prop for my logo tripod
              Oh Lol, it looks about the right size.
              This is how you play darts ,MVG two nines in the same match!
              https://youtu.be/yqTGtwOpHu8

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              • #37
                Originally Posted by itsnoteasy View Post
                Oh Lol, it looks about the right size.
                yes it does. that could be an idea. not something i would pursue as its about recognising the lines and not pinpointing the exact spot

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                • #38
                  Originally Posted by itsnoteasy View Post
                  To find high 3/4 ball pink ,level with blue ,in to first quarter ?
                  Is the stick we see near the Cush in the other video to divide the table into eighths?
                  Like they have those diamonds markers on the carom tables, ?
                  Up the TSF! :snooker:

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                  • #39
                    This is a really interesting thread. I have read all of the posts and have watched each of the videos and, like alabadi at #27 I was convinced that some of the pots looked more like half ball shots than 3/4's. I paused the video at the point where the ghost ball was used and it reinforced my thoughts.

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                    • #40
                      rollup rollup, if someone can find a half ball shot from the 3/4's iv demonstrated in the videos then i'll make them a cue and deliver it in time for the masters 2016

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                      • #41
                        Originally Posted by bluenose1940 View Post
                        This is a really interesting thread. I have read all of the posts and have watched each of the videos and, like alabadi at #27 I was convinced that some of the pots looked more like half ball shots than 3/4's. I paused the video at the point where the ghost ball was used and it reinforced my thoughts.
                        When looking at the very start of Part 3, where the 'ghost ball' is in place, there definitely seems to be closer to half of the pink showing rather than a quarter of it. Perhaps alabadi is seeing it similar to myself. Apologies if this seems stupid but, it's the way that that setup appears to me.

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                        • #42
                          Originally Posted by bluenose1940 View Post
                          When looking at the very start of Part 3, where the 'ghost ball' is in place, there definitely seems to be closer to half of the pink showing rather than a quarter of it. Perhaps alabadi is seeing it similar to myself. Apologies if this seems stupid but, it's the way that that setup appears to me.
                          yes it does but at the tabe it feels more like a high black 3/4 ball, and thats how i played it.

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                          • #43
                            thanks bluenose, i'll reassess when i see the table on monday, but i went back to the drawing board to remind myself where exactly a 3/4ball is.

                            Last edited by j6uk; 13 December 2015, 08:26 AM.

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                            • #44
                              Can you explain more about the 1/2 ball and 3/4 ball concept? I've never really understood the 1/2 ball, 3/4 ball concept. Surely there are a lot of shots that are inbetween, so it can only be useful for a limited number of shots?

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                              • #45
                                I've said many times on this forum that I learn so much from fellow contributors. Most of you are aware of the fact that I am a grey haired old whatsit who is doing his utmost to improve his game. I like to think that I have a bit of Judd trump in me (lol) with some of my shots. I ALWAYS play for position, rather than just rolling a red in and hoping that I can see a colour to have a go at. I just love potting a baulk colour of its spot and screwing all the way down the table for the next red, watching the curve on the cue ball is really quite exciting. I am still only putting together breaks in the 20 to 30 range but I did have a nice 43 the other day. I also went through the baulk colours and got to the pink which was on its spot, the black was tight on the side cushion halfway between the top cushion and the blue spot and I managed to pot the pink and get the black out into a pottable position and then MISSED IT! Grrrrrrrr!.

                                Oh! my safety play has also improved enormously too. I just wish that I had taken up this game much earlier in my life.

                                My comment on the 3/4 pink was made because the 'ghost ball' in the video really does look 'thinner' to me. Perhaps that's why I can't make higher breaks more consistentl. I do tend to miss shots from both ends of the table into the middle pocket very frequently, I always tend to hit the far jaw. I think that this would indicate that I am aiming too full. Would anyone agree?

                                To give you an idea as to how my mind works when potting. Obviously a full ball shot is centre cue ball to centre object ball, for a 3/4 shot I aim centre cue ball to a point mid-way between centre and extreme edge of the object ball, for a 1/2 ball shot I aim centre cue ball at the extreme edge of the object ball and, for a 1/4 ball shot I aim centre cue ball at an imaginary point approximately half an inch outside of the edge of the object ball. Am I getting that right?

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