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  • #61
    Originally Posted by j6uk View Post
    thanks for that baddi and without being controvercial, all the shots on this thread are 3/4. im putting the ball in the same place as the 3/4 you were trying into the corner and its the same shot so, its impossible. 1/2 would be inbetween that point and the black
    Yeah. It's just because the camera is not behind the line of the shot there. The camera is behind the line that would hit the cue ball about 4" down the yellow cushion. It's les s that 3/4 ball from the line that we look to the Pink, but that's not the line from the white.
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    • #62
      As I said it is probably the camera angle. It would be a good idea when u do more of these clips to set the camera on the line of aim first just so everyone can see the initial shot. Then move it to one side when you take the shot.

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      • #63
        Originally Posted by alabadi View Post
        As I said it is probably the camera angle. It would be a good idea when u do more of these clips to set the camera on the line of aim first just so everyone can see the initial shot. Then move it to one side when you take the shot.
        So are you saying that you can't see that the white isn't aiming at the Pink from that camera angle?
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        • #64
          1/2 ball shots are so different to the 3/4 ball ones iv been going through on this thread. your actually contacting very little of the face of the ob in comparison to the 3/4. whole shot pattern structure is wider, so the white comes off the ob quicker and can be harder to maintain good position.. a very valuable shot and one im looking forwards to getting into

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          • #65
            Originally Posted by tedisbill View Post
            So are you saying that you can't see that the white isn't aiming at the Pink from that camera angle?
            i'm not sure what you mean, the white doesn't point at anything, its only when you get behind it and depending on the direction you are aiming will determine where it points.

            all i was discussing was how the shot looked from the camera angle.

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            • #66
              Originally Posted by alabadi View Post
              i'm not sure what you mean, the white doesn't point at anything, its only when you get behind it and depending on the direction you are aiming will determine where it points.

              all i was discussing was how the shot looked from the camera angle.
              The white is pointing at the yellow cushion about 4" down in the screenshot you uploaded. If I hit that white in a straight line as the camera looks at it, it would hit about 4" down the yellow cushion.

              So, in order for you to say whether or not it's a 3/4 ball shot on the Pink, you'd need to be pointing perfectly down the line of aim, but in that screenshot, you're clearly not pointing straight down the line of aim for a shot to pot the Pink.

              So, I was just interested that you hadn't noticed the camera wasn't even on the line of aim properly.
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              • #67
                i did mention that the camera seemed to the left and this is why originally the ghost ball seemed planted thinner than 3/4 ball.

                it was just an observation that's all. j6 was standing behind the camera and saying it was a 3/4 ball. he was probably correct when he lined up behind the shot but from the camera angle we were seeing something different.

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                • #68
                  Originally Posted by alabadi View Post
                  this image is more of 3/4 J6. its just the one in your number 3 vid was thinner and looked more half ball. maybe the camera angle wasn't directly behind the shot as you take it, looked like it was slightly left and this would make a difference.

                  from the image i tool a still and did some photoshop not to disprove you but just to explain how it looked to me and some of the other members.

                  so here it is

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                  Originally Posted by Leo View Post
                  Alibaldi it was a 1/2 ball
                  Originally Posted by j6uk View Post
                  thanks for that baddi and without being controvercial, all the shots on this thread are 3/4. im putting the ball in the same place as the 3/4 you were trying into the corner and its the same shot so, its impossible. 1/2 would be inbetween that point and the black
                  in your image bellow that you took from the video you will see there is a clear path for the white pass the pink into the corner pocket, so if i was walking into that shot i would know im droping down to a 3/4 ballish pink into the middle




                  in my image iv moved the cue ball so as to give you a more realistic view of what a 1/2 ball pink would look like into the middle pocket. notice that the pink is covering the white into the yellow pocket, and if the white was just above the black on that line youd have a straightish pink into the corner




                  face the facts and dont miss





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                  Last edited by j6uk; 15 December 2015, 04:01 AM.

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                  • #69
                    Nice thread J6.
                    Hope u do'nt mind me asking this ,
                    all those shots in this video's are based on striking the CB in the center ( Not useing Side ) ?

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                    • #70
                      3/4 ball, no side, just following the natural angle.

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                      • #71
                        "Natural angle", so he is hitting CB in the centre, Ramon, with no side.
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                        • #72
                          @ J6
                          @ throtts

                          thanks for the info .

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                          • #73
                            3/4 pink in the scoring zone, the recap

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                            • #74
                              [QUOTE=j6uk;864454]3/4 pink in the scoring zone, the recap

                              Hi J6.

                              Thanks for starting a great thread and for the videos - I look forward to more on the other balls and angles.

                              However like a few others have commented on this thread I don't think the positioning of the 1/2 and 3/4 ball pinks is quite right - the cuts all appear to be too thin for me. Shouldn't the pink be on a grid of thirds rather than quarters? Looking at the ghost ball over the table a third of the way between pink and blue along the cushion is right for 1/2 ball - similarly two thirds of the way to the blue pocket for 3/4 ball. The maths for this are almost perfectly a third and two thirds too given that the deflection of a 3/4 ball is 14.5 degrees and 1/2 ball is 30 degrees. Please try it and let me know if you think I've misunderstood.

                              Cheers.

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                              • #75
                                Originally Posted by avruga View Post

                                Hi J6.

                                Thanks for starting a great thread and for the videos - I look forward to more on the other balls and angles.

                                However like a few others have commented on this thread I don't think the positioning of the 1/2 and 3/4 ball pinks is quite right - the cuts all appear to be too thin for me. Shouldn't the pink be on a grid of thirds rather than quarters? Looking at the ghost ball over the table a third of the way between pink and blue along the cushion is right for 1/2 ball - similarly two thirds of the way to the blue pocket for 3/4 ball. The maths for this are almost perfectly a third and two thirds too given that the deflection of a 3/4 ball is 14.5 degrees and 1/2 ball is 30 degrees. Please try it and let me know if you think I've misunderstood.

                                Cheers.
                                hi avruga,
                                thanks for your input. theres quite a difference between 2/3 and 3/4, 2/3 being inbetween 3/4 and 1/2. have you tried these shots yourself on the table, and do you see this pic as 2/3?






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                                Last edited by j6uk; 1 January 2016, 06:36 AM.

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