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[itsnoteasy]

Can I ask a question on stance, when my foot is online it's slightly turned out as is my other one but only slightly, should they both be pointing straight down the line? Thanks.

[pottr]

There's quite a few schools of thought on this.

Stand square on.

How I teach it, is get your back leg straight and on the line of aim, pointing along the line of aim. Your other foot can point where you like, just keep comfortable.

What I do to make sure lads have got it, is put a cue against their feet. then get them to look at it. The line of the cue (across the head on stance) should be parallel to the shot. This is a solid foundation and shows that you're aiming consistent and that your stance is actually square on at approach.

Remember, if you balls up your aim on approach, it doesn't matter if the rest of your technique is perfect, you will miss.

Again, all my own theory, what I have found to work...

There are a few others. But for me, I go with square on, over the boxer stance. and I have the foot pointing along the line of aim, rather than just a part on the line.

[itsnoteasy]

One of my theories...when you close the eyes to pot, as vmax says, you are relying on muscle memory and staying still on the shot, however I also think with the eyes closed you don't really know where the cueball is so you will ensure you hit it solid and therefore 'drive through' the cueball as everyone should.

I think the 'eyes-closed' exercise is a good one which will help ingrain solid striking.

Isn't this at the end of the day what good cueing is about? So what do the eyes add to any of this. I would concede there is a good chance if something minor is wrong your eyes could fix it on the way through, but they can also cause problems if they wander, I'm not saying play with your eyes shut that's just silly, I'm just wondering if they are as big a help or where they rank in importance to say staying still or good alignment, or as you say Terry a nice strike through the ball or muscle memory.
I should add this eye thing is only when down on the shot , not about aiming standing up or dropping down , it's once down and settled and happy everything is still online.

[pottr]

Exactly. The eyes shut thing only works after you've used your eyes for what they're needed for, to aim.

After that, they're superfluous.

[itsnoteasy]

There's quite a few schools of thought on this.

Stand square on.

How I teach it, is get your back leg straight and on the line of aim, pointing along the line of aim. Your other foot can point where you like, just keep comfortable.

What I do to make sure lads have got it, is put a cue against their feet. then get them to look at it. The line of the cue (across the head on stance) should be parallel to the shot. This is a solid foundation and shows that you're aiming consistent and that your stance is actually square on at approach.

Remember, if you balls up your aim on approach, it doesn't matter if the rest of your technique is perfect, you will miss.

Again, all my own theory, what I have found to work...

There are a few others. But for me, I go with square on, over the boxer stance. and I have the foot pointing along the line of aim, rather than just a part on the line.

So the line of aim goes right through your foot and up your straight leg Is that right?

[tetricky]

I'm a stance square on, foot on the line of the shot, man. I broadly base my technique on that of Steve Davis. But without the results. you wont get the leg directly in line with the cue. You'll have to kick your hip in a bit, to allow the cue to come through the line over the foot.

I do believe that getting everything in line, with an action that allows you to come through straight and consistent is the key to a solid foundation. Then look at where you want to hit. You do with every aiming sport. The force is not real!

[tomwalker147]

Bang on the money Pottr and Throtts.

In terms of my own game occasionally when I 'can't be bothered' I approach shots lazily and my stance suffers (right foot points outwards, elbow has more room to come out of line). Likewise when i'm flying I get lazy too, thinking the balls will go in regardless of whether I line up the shot properly or take up the correct stance.

The days when i'm "on it" and "have to win" I concentrate and ensure my basics are as close to bang on as I can get and my performance improves.

Regardless of your level or ability nailing the fundamentals leads to you getting the most out of your game.

[pottr]

Not necessarily up your leg, because having the foot online is almost like a point of contact by proxy...

You've already got your cue on the line with your grip, bridge, chin on the line of the shot. The chest can be used to keep it there. I find having the foot directly on the line anchors is all in place and allows the arm to go through straight and remain on that line with far less deviation that if the feet were settled haphazardly.

Think about it... if you don't have your feet in the right place, then mechanically, your body must be compensating for that somewhere in the cue action.

And if you're compensating for something you can fix, then it's just one more thing that can lead to movement.

[itsnoteasy]

Yep sorry I meant up your leg when standing, I realise this changes as you twist your hips on the way down.
I will try this, I have always felt I suffer from what J6 calls a lazy bent leg and I can be a bit soft round the hips, ( it's a wonder I pot anything lol)
Tom and Pottr could you explain what you mean by your elbow having room to come offline, is it kind of if your hips are too far over your elbows away from your body?

[pottr]

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I can sense a video coming...

PM me bro, I'll send you a private youtube link x

[alabadi]

Think about it... if you don't have your feet in the right place, then mechanically, your body must be compensating for that somewhere in the cue action.

And if you're compensating for something you can fix, then it's just one more thing that can lead to movement.

Exactly,

I think this is my problem, whenever I am not online or in other words aiming correctly , my body will move on delivery because my brain knows I'm not correct and tries to compensate .

I sometimes look down the line in the address position and think I'm lined up correctly but somehow don't feel comfortable, it's like my subconscious knows I'm not right yet my eyes think they are.

But when everything is right I just feel relaxed and confident that I'm potting the ball. I need to start trusting my instincts more and get up rather than relying on my eyes and trying to override it.

[Catch 22]

Exactly,

I think this is my problem, whenever I am not online or in other words aiming correctly , my body will move on delivery because my brain knows I'm not correct and tries to compensate .

I sometimes look down the line in the address position and think I'm lined up correctly but somehow don't feel comfortable, it's like my subconscious knows I'm not right yet my eyes think they are.

But when everything is right I just feel relaxed and confident that I'm potting the ball. I need to start trusting my instincts more and get up rather than relying on my eyes and trying to override it.

This is me

[pottr]

I said I would make this video for a member and since then, I have had 11 PM's to post/share it.

These are my thoughts:

https://youtu.be/Kcvy0uTtTrQ

[pcb]

I said I would make this video for a member and since then, I have had 11 PM's to post/share it.

These are my thoughts:

https://youtu.be/Kcvy0uTtTrQ

thanks pottr
bang on vid

[pottr]

I sometimes look down the line in the address position and think I'm lined up correctly but somehow don't feel comfortable, it's like my subconscious knows I'm not right yet my eyes think they are.

That's when we need to stand up and re-address the shot...

Sounds easy doesn't it... But yet we all just miss that easy ball and then think... "I'm a lazy fat *****"