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  • #46
    Originally Posted by Ramon View Post
    totally agree with you .
    But , what about if you have a very nice cue action But you can'nt deal with the pressure during the match and you lose the match ??
    Does that means your cue action is not good enough ? Or , does it means You're a poor player with a very nice cue action ??
    I would say that a good solid, reliable cue action will help you cope and manage with the pressure situations.

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    • #47
      Originally Posted by Ramon View Post
      totally agree with you .
      But , what about if you have a very nice cue action But you can'nt deal with the pressure during the match and you lose the match ??
      Does that means your cue action is not good enough ? Or , does it means You're a poor player with a very nice cue action ??
      I think that probably has more to do with a players experience and mentality rather than his technical ability. A lot of players simply cannot produce as well under pressure but can run centuries in practice which Is evidence of at least a half decent cue action.

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      • #48
        I think that most poeple think a perfect cue action is the duplication of a robotic arm, I always said that Hendry was a robot/machine when he was at the table cleaning up, not only was he in total control but his experience of taking the right shots also helped to make him look like a robot. I say this as a compliment to his play. Higgins also a very good player and very capable was not seen as a Robot or Machine, he was always strugling and pulling rabbits out of his hat to survive, he was very good at this because thats the way he played his whole life. I like both players for what they bring to the table, I think that as far as cue action is concerned they both took there own roads and both ended up at the same destination. Cheers,
        I try hard, play hard and dont always succeed, at first.!!!!:snooker:

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        • #49
          Originally Posted by ace man View Post
          Good question, but there's no such thing like poor player with good cue action. What you are talking about is a player who may have a nice looking cue action, stance...etc...but he may not deliver the cue itself that consistently. It doesn't mean he plays that well even in solo practise. And players who consistently beat him at tournaments would also very likely beat him in practise matches on his own table.
          To be honest , that was not my point.
          you may be right, poor was'nt using the right word thr.
          But I have seen many players with a decent an consistent cue action and they could never win tournaments just bcuz they could'nt handel the pressure , . even in pro level. Lets say, the top 50 in the world. Believe me, they are all able to run a century break during practice. THE main reason why a pro can win 1/2/3 or more tournaments and other one can'nt , is dealing with pressure.
          As I already Mentioned in my previous post, it is a difficult topic to judge about .
          But the more I think about it, the more I realize that a decent cue action has not much to do with level.
          maybe just part of it.

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          • #50
            Originally Posted by OmaMiesta View Post
            I think that probably has more to do with a players experience and mentality rather than his technical ability. A lot of players simply cannot produce as well under pressure but can run centuries in practice which Is evidence of at least a half decent cue action.
            agreed , that was my point.
            good post.

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            • #51
              Originally Posted by mikeyd100 View Post
              I would say that a good solid, reliable cue action will help you cope and manage with the pressure situations.
              100 percent disagree,

              Read post nr , 49 please .

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              • #52
                I think a mentally strong player with a less than perfect cue action will beat a player with a better cue action who doesn't deal with pressure as well.

                When the pressure is on , those who don't deal with it well lose their focus and it effects how they play , in terms of shot selection and in some situation their cue action suffers due to the nerves.

                I think this is why Higgins, Hendry, Selby, Robertson and the like win more tournaments although they don't have the smoothest cue actions compared to others.

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                • #53
                  Originally Posted by alabadi View Post
                  I think a mentally strong player with a less than perfect cue action will beat a player with a better cue action who doesn't deal with pressure as well.
                  When the pressure is on , those who don't deal with it well lose their focus and it effects how they play , in terms of shot selection and in some situation their cue action suffers due to the nerves.

                  I think this is why Higgins, Hendry, Selby, Robertson and the like win more tournaments although they don't have the smoothest cue actions compared to others.
                  +10 to this post.

                  I have seen it happens many times in amateur level.

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                  • #54
                    Originally Posted by Ramon View Post
                    To be honest , that was not my point.
                    you may be right, poor was'nt using the right word thr.
                    But I have seen many players with a decent an consistent cue action and they could never win tournaments just bcuz they could'nt handel the pressure , . even in pro level. Lets say, the top 50 in the world. Believe me, they are all able to run a century break during practice. THE main reason why a pro can win 1/2/3 or more tournaments and other one can'nt , is dealing with pressure.
                    As I already Mentioned in my previous post, it is a difficult topic to judge about .
                    But the more I think about it, the more I realize that a decent cue action has not much to do with level.
                    maybe just part of it.
                    Of course #1 player deals with pressure better than #50 player. But he is better probably at most parts of the game, doesn't matter if only slightly...all those subtle differences add up.

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                    • #55
                      Originally Posted by alabadi View Post
                      I think a mentally strong player with a less than perfect cue action will beat a player with a better cue action who doesn't deal with pressure as well.

                      When the pressure is on , those who don't deal with it well lose their focus and it effects how they play , in terms of shot selection and in some situation their cue action suffers due to the nerves.

                      I think this is why Higgins, Hendry, Selby, Robertson and the like win more tournaments although they don't have the smoothest cue actions compared to others.
                      Really? Wow. Who tops their cue action smoothness in your opinion? I can think of only one highly popular player. But I get that this is highly subjective.

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                      • #56
                        Originally Posted by ace man View Post
                        Really? Wow. Who tops their cue action smoothness in your opinion? I can think of only one highly popular player. But I get that this is highly subjective.
                        well i would say Shaun Murphy Ronnie Too, and although not playing anymore probably Stephen Lee have a better cue action

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                        • #57
                          Originally Posted by Ramon View Post
                          100 percent disagree,

                          Read post nr , 49 please .
                          Fair enough but I think it does play a part, amongst other factors also mentioned.
                          A big pair of balls is generally the most helpful haha

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                          • #58
                            Originally Posted by mikeyd100 View Post
                            Fair enough but I think it does play a part, amongst other factors also mentioned.
                            A big pair of balls is generally the most helpful haha
                            Sure , it does .

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