Potting With Side

[Tommykiid]

Hey Guys does anyone have any tips for judging the angle that you need to adjust to when potting with side ?

[tetricky]

Hey Guys does anyone have any tips for judging the angle that you need to adjust to when potting with side ?

It's very much a feel shot. How much the cue throws depends on how hard and off centre you hit it, and on your cue. how quickly it comes back on line depends on how much spin, how it takes on the cloth, and how fast the cue ball is travelling.

So you have to practice, but bear in mind rule 1 for consistent successful potting.

Rule 1: Use side as little as you have to. Preferably not at all.

[Tommykiid]

Cheers for the help man is there any good routines you could practice for them cos i think on a lot of shots if i had the confidence in those shots my break building would vastly improve

[tetricky]

Cheers for the help man is there any good routines you could practice for them cos i think on a lot of shots if i had the confidence in those shots my break building would vastly improve

Of course you're going to play how you want to, but.....

Playing "a lot of shots" like this, is going to hold you back. I did it for years....could move the cue ball around all over the place. Scoring very inconsistent. The trick in snooker, I now believe, is to do the bare minimum with the cue ball. That way you don't have to risk the poor position that moving it around a lot inevitably leads to.

Learn how to play simple shots, with the minimum action and use of cushions, to leave the next pot. Have a look at the recent "colors" thread for an example of how to learn the angles on the table, and how to manipulate the white ball accurately to your advantage. Practice potting balls and getting position, use the line up.

Try potting the pink just off straight (low), and using side to drop down on the black off the side cushion. Now play the shot from the same place plain ball, leaving yourself further away from the black, and try to pot the black from it's higher position. Unless something very strange is happening you'll findd that you'll pot more ball playing plain ball on the pink and leaving yourself higher on the black.

So practice that, not playing with side.

That's what i believe......but I'm just an average club player. There are some really good players here, that will be able to give you the juice.

[Phil C]

I only ever, ever use side when potting when the pot is practically 99% certain and it'll benefit my next shot, rather than plain ball.

Do as little as possible with the white and just keep practicing.

[Hello, Mr Big Shot]

Hey Guys does anyone have any tips for judging the angle that you need to adjust to when potting with side ?

Try this for everything you need to know about playing with side spin - and a great deal you don't.

http://billiards.colostate.edu/threads/throw.html

Better to learn empirical evidence rather than rely on people on here, who are either unaware of physics or use confused terminology. Others plain don't know what they are talking about, as evidenced already.

[golferson123]

Potting With Side

do yourself a favour and stay well away from mbs pool terminology,and give the church of doctor dave a wide berth

[vmax4steve]

Hey Guys does anyone have any tips for judging the angle that you need to adjust to when potting with side ?

Aim every shot too thick, whether it's right hand or left hand side, ie: near jaw for a black off it's spot, see where that takes you.

Adjust your aiming point according to how much you miss the shot by as your cue's deflection is unique to it, and to your cue action. Practise with varying degrees of power and adjust again to how much you miss by, ie: miss thin, aim thicker again, miss thick, aim a bit thinner, trial and error, learn from your failures rather than your successes.

Remember to keep the cue parallel with the line of aim, don't address centre cue ball and then move the tip to the side, address the tip of the cue direct to the side, one tips width from centre, cue parallel with the line of aim.
When lining up the pot, keep eyes on the contact point of the object ball, the thicker contact point you are aiming for, not the contact point needed for the pot, and do this again on the strike.

Don't watch those pool videos, they use napless cloths and it's a bit different on a snooker table.

[Hello, Mr Big Shot]

do yourself a favour and stay well away from mbs pool terminology,and give the church of doctor dave a wide berth

Lol. Yeah, why learn from a physics professor who dedicates much of his life to PROVING and DEMONSTRATING what happens when balls collide, when you could just listen to some fat bloke down the boozer drone on about using side to 'push into balls' or 'turn them over' instead?

Why use education when you can stay a moron for ever, golfie?

[Hello, Mr Big Shot]

Don't watch those pool videos, they use napless cloths and it's a bit different on a snooker table.

That's true but collision induced throw etc still occurs, albeit to a lessor degree. It is always worth knowing despite what morons may think.

[golferson123]

Lol. Yeah, why learn from a physics professor who dedicates much of his life to PROVING and DEMONSTRATING what happens when balls collide, when you could just listen to some fat bloke down the boozer drone on about using side to 'push into balls' or 'turn them over' instead?

Why use education when you can stay a moron for ever, golfie?

in print you look like a right wally god knows what the flesh sounds like lol, still got no ideas of your own only repeating others.

[itsnoteasy]

Honestly HMBS , go and play some snooker, knock in a few fifties and you will soon learn all of this is nonsense, it's nice as a technical discussion for those of us who like that type of thing and can seperate it from the realities of actually playing, but filling someone's head with this will do no one any good at all.As Vmax said you can't transfer nine ball pool theories to snooker, different cloths, balls , cushions , etc, and the pockets aren't mahoosive so the margin for error is judged in mm, not feet.

[toastandmarmite]

I'm genuinely saddened and surprised to find prejudice and abuse jostling for predominance on a dedicated snooker forum. Of course the gentleman should read up on Dr Alciatore's work, he's one of the world's leading experts on the subject in question.

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. WINSTON CHURCHILL.

[golferson123]

I'm genuinely saddened and surprised to find prejudice and abuse jostling for predominance on a dedicated snooker forum. Of course the gentleman should read up on Dr Alciatore's work, he's one of the world's leading experts on the subject in question.

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. WINSTON CHURCHILL.

the worlds leading expert, its not a field its opinion, who has tagged him thus? instead of quoting him hows about trying it for yourself and instead of quoting you could have an opinion yourself, and of course quoting dear old winston to add weight to your post your own knowledge would then suffice

[Hello, Mr Big Shot]

I'm genuinely saddened and surprised to find prejudice and abuse jostling for predominance on a dedicated snooker forum. Of course the gentleman should read up on Dr Alciatore's work, he's one of the world's leading experts on the subject in question.

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. WINSTON CHURCHILL.

I was wholly ignorant as well until relatively recently, so i try to be tolerant of them. It isn't easy, though.

I had played for 20years without even realising cues deflect! It sounds incredulous but it is true.

The depths of ignorance within the snooker world is simply astonishing, and one of the reasons it's a dying game. Players know it all and simply will not change with the times. It is very sad. Of course the real problem is all these people are maxy monsters, who've never missed a ball. Knowing what happens when balls collide can only stop them being the great players they so undoubtedly are.