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  • #31
    Originally Posted by Ramon View Post
    It would be nice to let the member know that you are not a coach so that the member can decide whether he takes your advice / opinion into consideration or not.
    as for what Ronnie' O'Sullivan said in previous posts (about copying info from google or this forum and pass it to other members), nothing wrong with that. If sumone can give me sum valuable info from google, I have no problem with that. After all, it's a forum.
    So, you may wanna tell me what's this thread about ? or not ?
    Ronnie O'Sullivan.....cheers
    "just tap it in":snooker:

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    • #32
      I'm no coach, but this is what works for me, and I'm as human as you are. No paid for courses or certificates, no preferred methodology, just years of experience of fishing around for form and tinkering that did no good at all until I learned that all you need to be a good potter is to look at the target, the rest will follow as you gain experience. If it doesn't then you simply haven't got it and you need to accept your level or quit.

      And no bolton, I don't post videos, neither does Terry despite his certifications, his advise is sound and in it's own way so is mine, besides, a video won't show what I advocate as you won't be able to see my hand follow my eye when I pot a difficult ball, or my eyes leave the target when I miss a sitter, you won't be able to see the cue balls slight swerve and curve across the nap when side is applied, you read what I post, try it out, and your game should improve.
      If it doesn't then there are other issues in your technique where posting a video might enlighten me, such as head or body movement, but if you say you're looking at the object ball but actually you aren't, then I can't see that on a video, that can only happen one on one, in the end it's up to the individual.

      Natural is always best, it's natural to look at the target, if you don't then you're not a natural and you need to apply something that doesn't come naturally, and that is very, very difficult, even something seemingly as easy as looking at the object ball on the strike; it's a split second thing that's very hard to achieve as the mind wants to know immediately if all balls are going where you want them to, and the eyes will turn away from the target very easily due to anxiety or sometimes complacency.
      That's why it's far easier to coach someone who is a natural potter and simply get them to stay still on the shot so that they have a definite stroke and the rudiments of cue ball control can be engrained through experience.

      Your hand follows your eye, absolute basic of all cue sports, head and body still, absolute basic of all cue sports, of course there are the exceptions that prove the rule, but you don't follow them, no matter how good they are, they're weird.
      Last edited by vmax4steve; 22 March 2016, 03:09 PM.

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      • #33
        I don't have any opportunity to post coaching videos as I'm by myself all the time. However that's sort of a moot point right now as I am unable to do any coaching.
        Terry Davidson
        IBSF Master Coach & Examiner

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        • #34
          How are getting along Terry

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          • #35
            The problem is that there's not actually much to teach.

            You learn the basics, then develop the intricacies as your level of play improves. It only improves through hours of practice. A coach will be able to spot certain flaws, but if we're all honest with ourselves, the biggest reason for lack of improvement is down to the frequency or quality of practice.

            Nothing any coach says will practice for you.

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            • #36
              I think many of us were lucky to get into snooker at a very early age where earning a living didn't enter your mind as you were living with the folks so it was practicing with your pals 24/7, so those coming into the game later on with families, work etc will struggle to find good quality practice time hence why some may struggle to find the results they want.

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              • #37
                Well... yeah.

                That's true for any hobby in life. Not sure I would equate it with luck, though? It's just **** that happened.

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                • #38
                  I'm no coach...
                  So stop flashing your headlights at me!
                  :snooker:
                  "I got injected with the passion for snooker" - SQ_FLYER
                  National Snooker Expo
                  25-27 October 2019
                  http://nationalsnookerexpo.com

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                  • #39
                    Originally Posted by Terry Davidson View Post
                    I don't have any opportunity to post coaching videos as I'm by myself all the time. However that's sort of a moot point right now as I am unable to do any coaching.
                    very nice video imo. you look a bit younger .

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-6zhTGzX10

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rQ2s3MQ3_s

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                    • #40
                      Originally Posted by tomwalker147 View Post
                      Ronnie O'Sullivan.....cheers
                      Good post.

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                      • #41
                        Originally Posted by grimreaper View Post
                        How are getting along Terry
                        Had a heart-stopper today when I saw the specialist. I am not improving on my present course of drugs so tomorrow I start taking some really serious drugs for 2 months and they have multiple side effects which I'm not looking forward to.

                        Right now I'm just not able to either practice or coach at all as I cannot stand for more than about 15 minutes. I can just about squeeze in 1 frame of snooker or 10 minutes on the treadmill but then my legs are knackered and I have to rest.

                        I've had excellent health for 70 years (71 at the end of this month) and have never had any serious health problems so I guess I'm paying the price now. I hope this new course of treatment works and there aren't any side effects which are too serious. Right now I get some really bad headaches in the middle of the night and sometimes have to get up at 3am because I can't sleep and just disturb my wife.
                        Terry Davidson
                        IBSF Master Coach & Examiner

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                        • #42
                          I hope you get sorted Terry, all the best.
                          This is how you play darts ,MVG two nines in the same match!
                          https://youtu.be/yqTGtwOpHu8

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                          • #43
                            I hope they can find a solution for you its pain getting older. Wish we could all stay young.

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                            • #44
                              All the very best, Terry. Stay positive too.
                              JP Majestic
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                              • #45
                                Originally Posted by pottr View Post
                                The problem is that there's not actually much to teach.

                                You learn the basics, then develop the intricacies as your level of play improves. It only improves through hours of practice. A coach will be able to spot certain flaws, but if we're all honest with ourselves, the biggest reason for lack of improvement is down to the frequency or quality of practice.

                                Nothing any coach says will practice for you.
                                Exactly pottr, it's a simple game that's very difficult for those who don't do the basics, and for those that do it's down to want, need and love of the game to improve.
                                Coaches, who needs them, those who post videos asking for help should be able to spot the flaws themselves to be honest, if I can see your head move, why can't you ?

                                Head movement was always my unknown problem, I used to play pool wearing normal specs and unknowingly moved my head up on the delivery stroke to see the object ball through my lenses. I could get away with it on a small pool table, and when I took up snooker it held me back until someone pointed it out to me, so I got some contact lenses and that head movement was no longer neccessary, but after ten years of pool it was a habit that I had to work very hard to get rid of.

                                As for hand/eye co-ordination, that can't be taught in my opinion, you've either got it or you haven't, and for cue sports where there is more than one target to consider, even for those with good hand/eye, it's those who focus on the correct target that excell.

                                I would say this, see the layout of the table when stood up behind the shot, once this is done the pocket is irrelevent as you know where it is because you have looked at it, that leaves two targets, consider the cue ball as part of your cue and you no longer have a target equation; the cue ball then becomes the bullet in your gun, the arrow in your bow, then you can focus on the real target, the contact point on the object ball.

                                If you do this subconsciously then it's all about practise, if you need to think about this on every shot then I'm afraid you're on a downer unless you have superhuman levels of concentration.

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