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    My wrist twists as soon as i grip around the cue like a hammer as per coching advice .Sometimes i feel the width of the butt can twist your wrist as you wrap your fingers around the cue but i am not sure if this is the case.Has someone else faced the same problem?Could anyone tell how to wrap your fingers so that no tension develops in the wrist.Thanks.

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    Originally Posted by navjot4086604 View Post
    My wrist twists as soon as i grip around the cue like a hammer as per coching advice .Sometimes i feel the width of the butt can twist your wrist as you wrap your fingers around the cue but i am not sure if this is the case.Has someone else faced the same problem?Could anyone tell how to wrap your fingers so that no tension develops in the wrist.Thanks.
    I'm not sure that it is the same problem and I'm sure there are many on here (coaches) that will add something as the conversation starts.

    I found that as I pushed through my writ twisted which caused me to cue off line so I looked at the whole grip thing.

    For me (and not advocating this is for everyone), this is what I do:

    I have a J Parris cue so it has a circular badge.

    As I approach the shot I have the opposite side of my little finger knuckle (palm side) on the badge with the 'V' between my thumb and 'index' finger pointing directly downward and wrap my fingers around the butt.

    If you imagine holding a tube of toothpaste with the lid off, I grip if enough that I wouldn't squeeze any out.

    On the top of my cue because of the way I hold it I have a piece of grain in the middle so I focus on delivering this straight through when in practice and can see if it is still on the top after the follow through which will help me see if I am still twisting.

    This may not help you and others may disagree as to the method but it works for me and is a good indicator as to whether I have kept the cue straight at the end of the shot.

    When I start to hit balls right (my common floor), I know I am gripping too tight or twisting and impact.
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    • #3
      I know you said you have a 'hammer grip' but Are you holding your wrist straight when down on shot?

      Players that have a straighter wrist hang tend to twist the cue on delivery..

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      • #4
        Originally Posted by cally View Post
        I know you said you have a 'hammer grip' but Are you holding your wrist straight when down on shot?

        Players that have a straighter wrist hang tend to twist the cue on delivery..
        Yeah. That was my point on the 'v' pointing toward the ground.......maybe didn't say it very well.
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        • #5
          I've experimented with twisting the cue on delivery because I notice I get a better reaction from the cue ball and object ball but it feels too risky to adopt so I try my best to avoid any twisting. If my wrist is straight and I feather gripping with the thumb and index finger allowing the remaining fingers to rest on the cue I can deliver knowing when I'm twisting my wrist because the angle of my wrist moves off centre. I always have the cue in the same position as well with the faceplate facing up. I've often wondered if any top players twist the cue and it would be easy to see as the grain of the cue would give it away but it would have to be viewed in slow mo.
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          • #6
            There's a few pro's that 'twist' on delivery..

            Off the top of my head Stephen Maguire for one...

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            • #7
              I know what you mean because I can see that in his grip hand when he strikes. I think Jimmy White also twisted his cue but I would be surprised if people like Hendry and Ronnie advocated the twist as a means to get more angle out of the shot. I only use them as a reference because they are the biggest century makers in the game.
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              • #8
                Originally Posted by cally View Post
                There's a few pro's that 'twist' on delivery..

                Off the top of my head Stephen Maguire for one...

                Stuart Bingham twists the cue quite a lot . Ronnie used to but not sure if he still does

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                • #9
                  wow I had no idea Ronnie played like that. Maybe I've been ignoring a valuable tool in breakbuilding. It could be useful when used sparingly on shots out of position that might need a thin snick. I find those circumstance can be greatly assisted with twisting the cue but it goes against every other shot I play where I try to keep the cue straight. Any twisting means the wrist bends left-right which is something all the coaching books I've read say is forbidden.
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                  • #10
                    Originally Posted by cally View Post
                    There's a few pro's that 'twist' on delivery..

                    Off the top of my head Stephen Maguire for one...
                    Yes I saw a video of a guy on you tube that does this. He is very pronounced almost like a corkscrew - He makes many centuries I try and find the video

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                    • #11
                      I don't believe it's something they incorporated into their technique intentionally..

                      It's a bad idea to try and add it into your game if that's what some are thinking. IMO.

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                      • #12
                        I've not looked at any videos so I'm only making a suggestion here, if you see the cue rotate but it is still coming through straight I would say it's happening as he closes his grip, so it's not his wrist twisting it's just his fingers closing that turning his cue ,are there any links to this? As I say I'm only guessing.
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                        • #13
                          Yes, you're correct.. I never meant the wrist twists on delivery. I meant the cue twists/rolls on delivery..

                          As the hand closes it's rolling the cue, essentially..
                          Last edited by cally; 3 April 2016, 11:39 AM.

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                          • #14
                            IMO that's a timing thing then, I would also hazard a guess it's happening after contact.
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                            • #15
                              It's nothing to do with timing, it's to do with nothing more than how you grip the butt and hang your wrist...

                              And no, it's not after contact.. The cue twists on the back swing then twists the opposite way on delivery...
                              Last edited by cally; 3 April 2016, 01:48 PM.

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