Cueing at the Speed of Sound

[Hello, Mr Big Shot]

There used to be only one factor with the SC's, chalk or dirt on the balls, everything else is either an excuse for the poor performance of the PR's or the result of trying to find a cure for them. Neither SC or PR balls induce static, spin up a polishing mop on either ball and a multimeter will read zero and there will be no sparks between the balls on contact.

The rules of snooker used to state that the game must be played with SC balls, the rules now state a ball recognised by the governing body, I emailed World Snooker asking which balls are recognised and got no reply, why ? why do they insist on using PR balls when all they get are problems with them. Saluc have billiard sports by the short and curlies, now they even own a cloth manufacturer, it'll be a table maker next, then Tweetens.

The retro revolution can start now, let's buy up as many old sets of SC's as we can for our napped club cloths and we can enjoy virtually kick free snooker for ourselves. Eventually this may make it's way to the ears of Barry Hearn.

If there are fewer kicks on english and american pool tables, which use the same ball as snooker, isn't it easier to just change the cloth on a billiards table?

Wouldn't that solve the problem? We could get rid of the old fashioned sea of green at the same time.

So, simonis 860 tournament blue cloth, measles cue ball, abolition of the woeful FAAM rule, a ball must make contact with a rail, ball in hand after a foul, call pocket to eliminate flukes...there's hope for this game after all!

[Catch 22]

If there are fewer kicks on english and american pool tables, which use the same ball as snooker, isn't it easier to just change the cloth on a billiards table?

Wouldn't that solve the problem? We could get rid of the old fashioned sea of green at the same time.

So, simonis 860 tournament blue cloth, measles cue ball, abolition of the woeful FAAM rule, a ball must make contact with a rail, ball in hand after a foul, call pocket to eliminate flukes...there's hope for this game after all!

Now you're just fishing :biggrin-new:

[Cannonball]

If there are fewer kicks on english and american pool tables, which use the same ball as snooker, isn't it easier to just change the cloth on a billiards table?

Wouldn't that solve the problem? We could get rid of the old fashioned sea of green at the same time.

So, simonis 860 tournament blue cloth, measles cue ball, abolition of the woeful FAAM rule, a ball must make contact with a rail, ball in hand after a foul, call pocket to eliminate flukes...there's hope for this game after all!

The last thing we need is a cloth from the Peltzer group making things worse with their Aramith balls. Nope, just get the best cloth in the world from Hainsworth. This is the cloth that all billiards games deserves:

No heaters ^ means less dirty energy consumed in making heaters and heating tables. Good for the environment and pocket.

[Cannonball]

Yay! Life is good.

[Hello, Mr Big Shot]

Yay! Life is good.

I do hope you juiced it with some special brew? Drink for girls, otherwise.

[Hello, Mr Big Shot]

Now you're just fishing :biggrin-new:

Not so. If aramith balls kick more due to the cloth used on billiards tables, and aramith hold monopoly, changing the cloth could be the answer. Measles balls show where a player has struck the cue ball, which would eliminate 90% of "kicks" overnight, as we could all instantly see it was a poorly struck shot, and not a bad contact.

Green cloth is outdated, as are fudgers rules regarding easy little roll ups. The FAAM arguments rage here as it is - ball in hand eliminates such arguments at a stroke.

All golden.

[Cannonball]

I do hope you juiced it with some special brew? Drink for girls, otherwise.

No, just some Teachers. It's basically a low wine, that is used to make whisky from a mash tun, so why not. However, was doing some tiling this morning, and the smell of grout made me want to vom. Dunno how that could have happened. :biggrin-new:

Snookers: yeah, I guess roll ups with contact off an initial ball and snooker behind a second ball would be good, as it is in the free ball situation.

I don't believe 6811T/no.10 makes balls kick more, it's just a slow cloth that needs heaters that definitely do make balls kick due to the heat and static build up. Heaters are not needed at all.

[Catch 22]

Not so. If aramith balls kick more due to the cloth used on billiards tables, and aramith hold monopoly, changing the cloth could be the answer. Measles balls show where a player has struck the cue ball, which would eliminate 90% of "kicks" overnight, as we could all instantly see it was a poorly struck shot, and not a bad contact.

Green cloth is outdated, as are fudgers rules regarding easy little roll ups. The FAAM arguments rage here as it is - ball in hand eliminates such arguments at a stroke.

All golden.

Just because a measles ball shows where it was struck doesn't stop kicks lol

Just cause the ball has spots on it doesn't mean you will hit it differently .

There's nothing wrong with green cloth ...blue and red cloths look stupid anyway

[Hello, Mr Big Shot]

Just because a measles ball shows where it was struck doesn't stop kicks lol

Just cause the ball has spots on it doesn't mean you will hit it differently .

There's nothing wrong with green cloth ...blue and red cloths look stupid anyway

Learn to read!

Actually, this is where a knowledge of physics comes in useful - most snooker players are blissfully unaware of the "throws", whether they be cut induced, spin induced or gearing. Players who think they've had a kick - because the CB goes straight, or does not go to where they were expecting - often don't realise they have applied side to the CB by mistake. If they understood the effects of throw, and could see from the measles ball they had butchered the shot, they would realise they have not had a bad contact at all, they merely miss hit the shot.

[Hello, Mr Big Shot]

No, just some Teachers. It's basically a low wine, that is used to make whisky from a mash tun, so why not. However, was doing some tiling this morning, and the smell of grout made me want to vom. Dunno how that could have happened. :biggrin-new:

Snookers: yeah, I guess roll ups with contact off an initial ball and snooker behind a second ball would be good, as it is in the free ball situation.

I don't believe 6811T/no.10 makes balls kick more, it's just a slow cloth that needs heaters that definitely do make balls kick due to the heat and static build up. Heaters are not needed at all.

I think it's time to drop the static rubbish.

[itsnoteasy]

Learn to read!

Actually, this is where a knowledge of physics comes in useful - most snooker players are blissfully unaware of the "throws", whether they be cut induced, spin induced or gearing. Players who think they've had a kick - because the CB goes straight, or does not go to where they were expecting - often don't realise they have applied side to the CB by mistake. If they understood the effects of throw, and could see from the measles ball they had butchered the shot, they would realise they have not had a bad contact at all, they merely miss hit the shot.

Just no need for that Biggie, why add that to what is a reasonable post, it just winds people up.

[Cannonball]

Just because a measles ball shows where it was struck doesn't stop kicks lol

Just cause the ball has spots on it doesn't mean you will hit it differently .

There's nothing wrong with green cloth ...blue and red cloths look stupid anyway

'It's' starting, and I'm not blamin you chap. :biggrin-new: But yeah, if they had the polka dot ball, we would see when it's down to bad cueing more easily. Well, that's a moot point because the camera would have to be trained on the ball but hey. But mr big sh** does have a point about when a player does not middle the ball as intended and misses due to throw. Sometimes a player simply gets the angle wrong, this wouldn't show up in slo-mo though I'm sure players would still say it was a kick.

[Hello, Mr Big Shot]

Just no need for that Biggie, why add that to what is a reasonable post, it just winds people up.

Lol. What??

[Catch 22]

'It's' starting, and I'm not blamin you chap. :biggrin-new: But yeah, if they had the polka dot ball, we would see when it's down to bad cueing more easily. Well, that's a moot point because the camera would have to be trained on the ball but hey. But mr big sh** does have a point about when a player does not middle the ball as intended and misses due to throw. Sometimes a player simply gets the angle wrong, this wouldn't show up in slo-mo though I'm sure players would still say it was a kick.

Yeah I understand that . What he said was " it would eliminate kicks overnight " .... No... It would show where a players has not Cued it well but it would not stop balls from physically kicking lol ....

Looks like I can read after all

Maybe if he had said " it would show when a ball was missed by throw instead of a kick "

[Hello, Mr Big Shot]

Yeah I understand that . What he said was " it would eliminate kicks overnight " .... No... It would show where a players has not Cued it well but it would not stop balls from physically kicking lol ....

Looks like I can read after all

Maybe if he had said " it would show when a ball was missed by throw instead of a kick "

Nope. Try again, this time applying english comprehension skills. You may also like to consider why the word kicks was put in quotation marks. Then it will all become clear.

Back to school, lad.