Wider Stance

[Big Splash!]

You got more points than Aston Villa got last year lol.

haha! I went to the bugger table club today; steward is a newcastle fan!

@INE. It took me a while (like 3 years!) to understand it but after speaking to a 147 mate and his mate (a coach), it has begun to sink in. And that's you play the shot 100%, no snatching (or trying not to) and if you miss you miss. You've still won because you played it and gave fear a smack in the chops. The only difference between players is the physical cuz we can all make 147s with our eyes and brains. It's all about getting your body to obey the rational brain and not listen to the effin monkey. It's not easy! But you can do it.

@tedisbill. Thanks boss.

[Shockerz]

The biggest thing that annoyed me the last two days was, over the past two or three weeks I thought I had cracked it, I was cueing the same all the time, so controlled with no effort,then this ,back to square one rubbish, grip tightening, throwing in a quick one with that slight snatch,doubting the line I have picked.
I have always had the thought of ,even if I'm playing rubbish I would still rather be playing than not , but today I didn't feel like that, I just had to walk away, I know learning things can be one step forwards and one back for a good while and I will just play through it, but boy it was a tough one today.

Hmm. Could be me writing that. Load of tosh today just when I thought I was getting it!

[tedisbill]

@tedisbill. Thanks boss.

Why are you thanking me?

[itsnoteasy]

haha! I went to the bugger table club today; steward is a newcastle fan!

@INE. It took me a while (like 3 years!) to understand it but after speaking to a 147 mate and his mate (a coach), it has begun to sink in. And that's you play the shot 100%, no snatching (or trying not to) and if you miss you miss. You've still won because you played it and gave fear a smack in the chops. The only difference between players is the physical cuz we can all make 147s with our eyes and brains. It's all about getting your body to obey the rational brain and not listen to the effin monkey. It's not easy! But you can do it.

@tedisbill. Thanks boss.

That's it, it's the doubt, it causes the tension that causes everything else, when I let my arm go there is no tension there is no grip, there is just cueing.
Thanks Ted

[tedisbill]

Thanks Ted

No....... Thank you

[Big Splash!]

Why are you thanking me?

Yes, Hendry, thanks for reminding me. The chief influence in my foot in line 3yr obsession. If it was good enough for the most decorated and all that...

Thanks Ted.

[tedisbill]

Yes, Hendry, thanks for reminding me. The chief influence in my foot in line 3yr obsession. If it was good enough for the most decorated and all that...

Thanks Ted.

Yeah. He was a decent player. Never won a world title after the age of 30 though. If only he'd have turned that right foot out slightly.

[Big Splash!]

Yeah. He was a decent player. Never won a world title after the age of 30 though. If only he'd have turned that right foot out slightly.

TD wrote a bit about Hendry. It must have been difficult keeping up that supine posture he had, it looked tough on the back. I think Terry said he dropped his shoulder as well. I know some will talk about the broken cue, but I don't believe that. Hendry practised a lot and that posture/stance must have taken its tole. Ronnie's still going.

[sharkster63]

Thankyou all.

I must make a confession. I read what Mr. Davidson said on the forum some years ago about this topic and took it to heart against the judgement of two coaches and many friends and there are probably five maxi makers in that group. The pros; better CB control from shorter cueing that goes with foot in line. Better breaks. Worse long potting. Uncomfortable on the knees and hips. Has never felt natural or enjoyable standing this way. And that's how the topic got raised on the dog and bone started today, uncomfort playing sometimes as a passing comment if you will. Not meant as a pre-cursor to a full discussion of technique.

There are different ways of playing and we each hope to choose something that is best for us, knowing that no one way is the only way. I have learnt a lot more about the game than I would have because I've taken myself out the comfort zone and accepted a challenge. When the stance changes, most things change with it, so it's a huge adjustment and I'd warn folk to think carefully if they contemplate such a thing. Time for a cider me thinks.

Good Point, i am totally the opposite, i dont like to change anything and dont, i think that hard practice will put everything into its proper place, i know its not realistic but thats the way I am. I would never do a big change like that even if Ding told me to do it... lol

[sharkster63]

Yeah. He was a decent player. Never won a world title after the age of 30 though. If only he'd have turned that right foot out slightly.

Lol, if only... lol

[Catch 22]

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So, I took myself to the bugger table with the 3.25'' pockets and slow cloth that rolls at low pace; not an easy proposition. Set up wise. Sighting from the centre, tummy button or nose as TD would have it, 3ft back. Rt ft pointing out, Lt ft pointing the other way, symmetrical and about 8 inches wider stance than foot in line. Both feet at 45 degrees. Cue under the nipple, brushing the hip. Rt chin, Rt eye. Bent arm bridge, cueing over the middle finger. And................it was like old times. Stunning. Cleared the line-up no bother. And then did it with single stroke no feathering to see if I could still cue dead straight and make it look easy. Much more natural feeling and not tiring. Loads more power and the long potting was awesome. It just felt easy.

I later tried going back to foot in line, and it was horrible. Long potting was a struggle though break-building was ok. Tiring and felt un-natural.

I think I answered my question.

@TD, eye strain, looking at a ball, really? He must be staring it to death like he hates it to get eye strain. He doesn't hate it does he?

Pretty much how Chris Small taught me.

[Big Splash!]

^ Thanks Catch. Chris Smalling taught you? That's pretty awesome. I may be guilty of re-inventing the wheel but if it's a Smalling wheel, that's no bad thing.

[Crixus]

I was taught to point my foot down the shot. Had to turn the foot in. Don't know why the coach told me to do it but I was in agony with my hip for about a month playing!

[alabadi]

The biggest thing that annoyed me the last two days was, over the past two or three weeks I thought I had cracked it, I was cueing the same all the time, so controlled with no effort,then this ,back to square one rubbish, grip tightening, throwing in a quick one with that slight snatch,doubting the line I have picked.
I have always had the thought of ,even if I'm playing rubbish I would still rather be playing than not , but today I didn't feel like that, I just had to walk away, I know learning things can be one step forwards and one back for a good while and I will just play through it, but boy it was a tough one today.

You beginning to sound like me Jim....lol

[Terry Davidson]

I don't remember saying anything about Hendry dropping his shoiulder, but I do remember saying he dropped his ELBOW into his back on the backswing and then raised it on the delivery. I also noted he used to twist his back like a pretzel. The elbow movement was just one more thing he had to coordinate perfectly and my own belief is when he got to 30 and lost some of that youthful natural hand-eye coordination he was no longer able to time everything perfectly like he could when he was 25yrs old.