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  • #61
    Originally Posted by Slasher View Post
    Simple physics, more rotational torque is achieved the further you move from the axis.
    Why do diesel engines produce more torque than petrol?

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    • #62
      Originally Posted by Big Splash! View Post
      You got a video of that of that beef?

      @INE, I know mate, was he eating grits? Lol
      https://youtu.be/ILd9uTRmbmE

      The short story is ..........

      This was a semi final of the "world one pocket championship " Even though it was very shoddy run affair

      During the match Earl would go sit in another room while Shaw was at the table taking his turn (against rules but did anyway and was also "sharking" him (talking smack )

      The rules state you have to nominate which ball you are going for . Earl nominated a ball but aimed up and potted another one (simply made a mistake in his nomination ) .Earl loses his turn and Shaw comes to table .

      Later Earl nominates the 2 ball but aims up and cues the ten ball and pots it . Jayson Shaw jumps up and correctly tells him he nominated the twO ball . Earl realises his mistake and slams his cue around saying the ref never heard it !

      The tournament director takes forever reviewing video replay and talking to refs etc

      The tournament director declares that the video replay sound wasn't good enough to hear and that the ref didn't hear it either so allows Earl to continue his shot

      Jayson approaches Earl to shake his hand and conceded because he is fuming that Earl lied instead of owning up

      Earl refuses handshake and continues to play a shot

      Jayson picks up two balls and throws them across the table and one leaves the table flying across the room .

      Jayson calls Earl a cheat and says he won't deal with him again

      Later Jayson post a video on his Facebook taken from the crowd which CLEARLY Earl calls the two ball but POINTS his cue at the 10 ball

      Cue an Internet forum meltdown with people supporting both players

      Good laugh ahaha

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      • #63
        Originally Posted by Big Splash! View Post
        Why do diesel engines produce more torque than petrol?
        Longer stroke length and higher cylinder pressures.

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        • #64
          Originally Posted by Catch 22 View Post
          https://youtu.be/ILd9uTRmbmE

          The short story is ..........

          This was a semi final of the "world one pocket championship " Even though it was very shoddy run affair

          During the match Earl would go sit in another room while Shaw was at the table taking his turn (against rules but did anyway and was also "sharking" him (talking smack )

          The rules state you have to nominate which ball you are going for . Earl nominated a ball but aimed up and potted another one (simply made a mistake in his nomination ) .Earl loses his turn and Shaw comes to table .

          Later Earl nominates the 2 ball but aims up and cues the ten ball and pots it . Jayson Shaw jumps up and correctly tells him he nominated the twO ball . Earl realises his mistake and slams his cue around saying the ref never heard it !

          The tournament director takes forever reviewing video replay and talking to refs etc

          The tournament director declares that the video replay sound wasn't good enough to hear and that the ref didn't hear it either so allows Earl to continue his shot

          Jayson approaches Earl to shake his hand and conceded because he is fuming that Earl lied instead of owning up

          Earl refuses handshake and continues to play a shot

          Jayson picks up two balls and throws them across the table and one leaves the table flying across the room .

          Jayson calls Earl a cheat and says he won't deal with him again

          Later Jayson post a video on his Facebook taken from the crowd which CLEARLY Earl calls the two ball but POINTS his cue at the 10 ball

          Cue an Internet forum meltdown with people supporting both players

          Good laugh ahaha
          Earl does make a mistake by pointing at the pocket for the 10, then playing it but calling the two. I don't think it's cheating but he has broken the rule as I understand it. So they've got the decision wrong.

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          • #65
            Originally Posted by Slasher View Post
            Longer stroke length and higher cylinder pressures.
            Is that why I get more top spin with a low down stance and long stroke length compared to a more upright, raked stance and less stroke I wonder? Was I a petrol engine on Tuesday and a Diesel yesterday and today? I do wonder how JT and Robbo develop so much power. Though they've got different set-ups, they both get low down. Stephen Lee is different again, not so low down but a long stroke. Maybe it's more to do with the long stroke than the set-up then?

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            • #66
              You'll definitely get more on the ball with a longer action. Of course, it allows for a more flowing acceleration and consistent speed through the ball..

              Hence the top boys that do it well pull the cue back very long...

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              • #67
                Getting down low will help with the top spin shot because of the angle of attack, generating CB reaction is all about cue speed and contact point, relaxed muscles help generate speed, ask any tennis player how to generate racket head speed they will say keep relaxed. Relaxed grip and forearm keep the cue on line, this is why many struggle with screw shots, they tense the grip and this raises the tip of the cue and they strike higher on the CB than they think, so they try more power and it exacerbates the problem. Longer bridge + longer back swing + longer stroke = more cue speed = more reaction.

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                • #68
                  Originally Posted by Catch 22 View Post
                  https://youtu.be/ILd9uTRmbmE

                  The short story is ..........

                  This was a semi final of the "world one pocket championship " Even though it was very shoddy run affair

                  During the match Earl would go sit in another room while Shaw was at the table taking his turn (against rules but did anyway and was also "sharking" him (talking smack )

                  The rules state you have to nominate which ball you are going for . Earl nominated a ball but aimed up and potted another one (simply made a mistake in his nomination ) .Earl loses his turn and Shaw comes to table .

                  Later Earl nominates the 2 ball but aims up and cues the ten ball and pots it . Jayson Shaw jumps up and correctly tells him he nominated the twO ball . Earl realises his mistake and slams his cue around saying the ref never heard it !

                  The tournament director takes forever reviewing video replay and talking to refs etc

                  The tournament director declares that the video replay sound wasn't good enough to hear and that the ref didn't hear it either so allows Earl to continue his shot

                  Jayson approaches Earl to shake his hand and conceded because he is fuming that Earl lied instead of owning up

                  Earl refuses handshake and continues to play a shot

                  Jayson picks up two balls and throws them across the table and one leaves the table flying across the room .

                  Jayson calls Earl a cheat and says he won't deal with him again

                  Later Jayson post a video on his Facebook taken from the crowd which CLEARLY Earl calls the two ball but POINTS his cue at the 10 ball

                  Cue an Internet forum meltdown with people supporting both players

                  Good laugh ahaha
                  The consensus, which i fully agree with, was Shaw acted like a complete pr*ck (or a nit in pool parlance). One of the things i like about American pool is the lack of pointless etiquette in snooker and English pool.

                  It was a brain fart by earl, nothing more nothing less. No cheating, just a mistake. Everyone could see which ball was shooting, Shaw included. Lost a lot of respect for Shaw there.

                  The spirit of the law is far more important than the letter of the law imo. Those that take the rules to the enth degree are t*ssers.

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                  • #69
                    Originally Posted by Hello, Mr Big Shot View Post
                    The consensus, which i fully agree with, was Shaw acted like a complete pr*ck (or a nit in pool parlance). One of the things i like about American pool is the lack of pointless etiquette in snooker and English pool.

                    It was a brain fart by earl, nothing more nothing less. No cheating, just a mistake. Everyone could see which ball was shooting, Shaw included. Lost a lot of respect for Shaw there.

                    The spirit of the law is far more important than the letter of the law imo. Those that take the rules to the enth degree are t*ssers.
                    Earl had been sharking him the whole game and refused to sit in the chair while it was Shaw's shot .instead he went and sat in a serperate part of the venue .
                    Earl was acting like a dick all match (as per usual) .
                    So Shaw had every right to be playing the rules to his advantage .
                    Earl does this kind of stuff all the time

                    Team Shaw hahaha

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                    • #70
                      Plus the other point is Earl denide calling the two ball even though he did .

                      You can see in his reaction that he know he made a mistake and the other video proves it

                      So no matter the outcome he still blatantly Lied .....very classless individual at the table

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                      • #71
                        Ironically, if Earl didn't call at all, there would have been less, if any, fuss.

                        I understand as long as it's obvious which shot your shooting, then not calling, or even wrong calling won't be a foul.

                        The rule is there to prevent luck , flukes, call it what you like, you need to mean the pot you get.


                        The 2 ball was tucked up in the middle of a cluster of balls, so both knew the shot that was being attempted. imho.

                        That being the case, a number of wrongs built up to a perfect storm.


                        1 / If the first call of a foul for calling the wrong ball/shot, earlier in the match, was obvious, then it was wrong to call a foul there.

                        Even if it was, there was a good chance to explain why ( ref could say "due to playing the non-called shot, AND it not being obvious what shot

                        was being made, it's a foul" ), which may have helped later in the 2nd incident.

                        2 / Earl called the 2 ball, so should not have claimed otherwise, or that the ref didn't hear him. Just admit a brain fart and say the shot was obvious.

                        3 / Ref was sitting next to Jayson, but didn't hear the call ? He shouldn't be reffing again.


                        4 / Tournament director again have the opportunity to explain his decision better, but didn't. More detail about the obvious shot thing might have helped.


                        I don't think either player comes out of this well. . . . .

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                        • #72
                          Earl has wound up Shaw from the get go. Shaw had reacted with a technical call and he's right. Earl lies about having a gaff. The refs make a mess of it. Shaw should get the foul and doesn't. Shaw should have let it pass but its not a normal circumstance. Shaw is right about Earl being an idiot. Strickland is poison. I don't understand why pool orgs don't ban players for this behaviour. Reyes doesn't need to do it. None should.

                          It wouldn't happen in snooker.
                          Last edited by Big Splash!; 24 September 2016, 10:06 AM.

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                          • #73
                            Originally Posted by Big Splash! View Post
                            Earl has wound up Shaw from the get go. Shaw had reacted with a technical call and he's right. Earl lies about having a gaff. The refs make a mess of it. Shaw should get the foul and doesn't. Shaw should have let it pass but its not a normal circumstance. Shaw is right about Earl being an idiot. Strickland is poison. I don't understand why pool orgs don't ban players for this behaviour. Reyes doesn't need to do it. None should.

                            It wouldn't happen in snooker.
                            Lol. Alex Higgins ring any bells?

                            Earl is mentally ill, this is medically diagnosed and well known. He's a top fella when not under the pressure of being at the table.

                            Earl doesn't do anything wrong here imo. If he was sharking Shaw all match, that is irrelevant to this situation, and should have been dealt with earlier, by the referee. He called the wrong ball, that is all. Anyone in their fifties could make that mistake. If Shaw really thought he was playing a worldie on the two ball, he was on his own. He should have taken it like a man.

                            And wasn't the TD a mincing tit lol?

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                            • #74
                              How did this turn into a pool discussion.. lol

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                              • #75
                                Originally Posted by cally View Post
                                How did this turn into a pool discussion.. lol
                                Because TSF that's why haha

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