help some tips for keeping elbow still up

[Big Splash!]

Constant acceleration is also a myth.

Really, tell that to Mercedes F1.

Ok, let's settle it this way, from evidence. JT, Robbo and Jimmy, do they have the most cue power? Yes. Do they have smooth cue actions? Yes. Do they get through the ball with follow through? Yes. Do they accelerate smoothly, in a constant fashion? Yes.

See, evidence can make you feel better.

[itsnoteasy]

Nic Barrow has some videos on cue acceleration.

[Slasher]

https://youtu.be/z_lt9YunMwY

[Big Splash!]

Nic Barrow has some videos on cue acceleration.

Yeah, he calls it smooth acceleration. I say constant. But in the video, it's the same thing:

Notice how he gets through the ball = power + control.

[itsnoteasy]

It was more these ones, it's hard to see but you can just about make it out.
https://youtu.be/ucJvSyd6WB0

[Big Splash!]

It was more these ones, it's hard to see but you can just about make it out.
https://youtu.be/ucJvSyd6WB0

Good video. Shows that smooth, gradual or constant acceleration is the way to go. And constant acceleration can be monitored. That video is worth a look slasher.

[Slasher]

It was more these ones, it's hard to see but you can just about make it out.
https://youtu.be/ucJvSyd6WB0

He does not understand the physics of what is taking place, he has not used high frame rate slo motion cameras to measure the actual contact time, he has not measured the cue speed he has not correlated the contact point/mass/velocity/angle with the reactions, he simply does not have the tools or the science to know what is really happening. He is simply using anecdotal results.
I did this and this happened therefore...........
If people would understand what is really happening between the tip and the ball they would not be wasting time and energy on threads like this and the myths around this aspect of the game, they would work on striking the CB precisely and consistently where they intended and with the speed they intended.
And the way to do that is to get the cue through straight, keep the grip and forearm muscles relaxed up to the point of delivery, this will help to keep the tip going where you want it, slowing the cue requires muscle tension and this will take the cue off line and the reason accelerating generally keeps the cue on line but it is not essential!. What you do 1/1000 of a second after you strike the CB is completely and utterly unimportant.
The only thing that matters to Mr Cueball is where he was hit and at what speed and by how many ounces of cue, the rest is a non factor.

[Big Splash!]

He does not understand the physics of what is taking place, he has not used high frame rate slo motion cameras to measure the actual contact time, he has not measured the cue speed he has not correlated the contact point/mass/velocity/angle with the reactions, he simply does not have the tools or the science to know what is really happening. He is simply using anecdotal results.
I did this and this happened therefore...........
If people would understand what is really happening between the tip and the ball they would not be wasting time and energy on threads like this and the myths around this aspect of the game, they would work on striking the CB precisely and consistently where they intended and with the speed they intended.
And the way to do that is to get the cue through straight, keep the grip and forearm muscles relaxed up to the point of delivery, this will help to keep the tip going where you want it, slowing the cue requires muscle tension and this will take the cue off line and the reason accelerating generally keeps the cue on line but it is not essential!. What you do 1/1000 of a second after you strike the CB is completely and utterly unimportant.
The only thing that matters to Mr Cueball is where he was hit and at what speed and by how many ounces of cue, the rest is a non factor.

He uses instruments to measure cue speed, and he's got graphs to show us how people accelerate. All the top players accelerate smoothly, or constantly. That's the measure I'm interested in because they're the best, playing under the most pressure. Simply whacking it will produce effect but it won't produce control. A smooth cue action with follow through produces control. This is no coincidence. All the pros do it; that's the empiricism that matters, the physics of the table.

How you hit the ball changes resonance and how the ball will react. A whacker can hit the ball and a good player can hit the ball, both with the same force. And I've seen this, the results are different. This is down to resonance and clean or dirty energy. When folk whack the ball it vibrates more and reacts less in the intended way. When a player adds the same force but in a smooth uniform fashion, we get less vibration and more intended reaction. Anyone can hear the difference in the sonics of the contact and the sonics of the CB and OB. We can hear a great shot (crisp sound) and hear a duff one. A duff one sounds terrible and that's because the force has been badly applied by a whacker.

Whackers and jabbers also get more kicks due to poor resonance, so that's another reason to cue smoothly like Ronnie, who gets the least amount of kicks.

The proof is in the pudding. How many jabbers have won a world title? Including Taylor, I'd say one though he was lucky. All the rest have delivered the cue smoothly.

[Slasher]

He uses instruments to measure cue speed, and he's got graphs to show us how people accelerate. All the top players accelerate smoothly, or constantly. That's the measure I'm interested in because they're the best, playing under the most pressure. Simply whacking it will produce effect but it won't produce control. A smooth cue action with follow through produces control. This is no coincidence. All the pros do it; that's the empiricism that matters, the physics of the table.

How you hit the ball changes resonance and how the ball will react. A whacker can hit the ball and a good player can hit the ball, both with the same force. And I've seen this, the results are different. This is down to resonance and clean or dirty energy. When folk whack the ball it vibrates more and reacts less in the intended way. When a player adds the same force but in a smooth uniform fashion, we get less vibration and more intended reaction. Anyone can hear the difference in the sonics of the contact and the sonics of the CB and OB. We can hear a great shot (crisp sound) and hear a duff one. A duff one sounds terrible and that's because the force has been badly applied by a whacker.

There you have it folks, Religion explained lol

[itsnoteasy]

Is Ebdon a jabber?

[Big Splash!]

Is Ebdon a jabber?

Apologies; make that two then. What about Dott and Thorburn? Hmmm, nah, they were quite smooth deliverers. Ronnie has 5 though, still better than the all jabbers put together! And Taylor lauds Ronnie as the Genius. So even the jabbers know the deal. Smooth as Cadbury's Caramel my dear. A man who hits a nail hard with all his might may drive the nail or he may bend it. The nail will usually move, but will it move as intended? Hit the nail with controlled force and you get a better result. It's all about balancing force with control, hence why smooth acceleration is key. If pumping the ball was the way fwd, all the pros would be doing it. They don't.

[itsnoteasy]

The nine ballers are that busy working things out with a pencil they don't have time to fix their cue actions

[mikeyd100]

Is Ebdon a jabber?

Also is Mark Allen a jabber or is he a stabber ???

[ace man]

I also prefer watching beautiful looking cue actions, but there are million ways to strike a ball. Both M. Allen and P. Ebdon can pot pressure balls for lots of money and have done so many times. They deserve respect.

[mikeyd100]

I also prefer watching beautiful looking cue actions, but there are million ways to strike a ball. Both M. Allen and P. Ebdon can pot pressure balls for lots of money and have done so many times. They deserve respect.

Oh yeah I like the differences too, textbook aint the only way.
Allen also has a lovely light grip it seems - still can power it through too.