The Dreaded Yips

[inevermissblue]

Been discussing this recently and what people have done to try and get over it.

Have any of you guys suffered and what have you done to get over it, did any of it work?

Sight/strike the CB instead. As its probable that doubt has crept into your game by playing, sighting the OB. This is sure to cure that. I'm not a coach though. So take what I offer in terms of advice, as a pinch of salt! Lol. If this does solve the problem. Pm me and I'll give details on where to post a cheque! ������

[Shockerz]

Sight/strike the CB instead. As its probable that doubt has crept into your game by playing, sighting the OB. This is sure to cure that. I'm not a coach though. So take what I offer in terms of advice, as a pinch of salt! Lol. If this does solve the problem. Pm me and I'll give details on where to post a cheque! ������

Ha Ha! Your cheques in the post!

When I started playing the game again around 6 years ago I was a cue ball sighter. Had coaching and switched to Object ball; my game got better almost immediately. Honestly can't remember when my twitches started. Even though twitching every now and again, my breaks went up so a little bit twitchy going back (ha ha).

[inevermissblue]

Ha Ha! Your cheques in the post!

When I started playing the game again around 6 years ago I was a cue ball sighter. Had coaching and switched to Object ball; my game got better almost immediately. Honestly can't remember when my twitches started. Even though twitching every now and again, my breaks went up so a little bit twitchy going back (ha ha).

Its not a straight forward change CB sighting. As there must be at least a dozen variants to this. In my experience only 2 of which work.

>never watch the cue strike the CB...watch the CB leave the cue.

1. Focus on the CB entirely...ignore the cue as you will try to steer it.
or...
2. During backswing transfer eyes midway through to CB as the cue comes to a stop! Once your eyes have refocused...Bingo!

[Shockerz]

Its not a straight forward change CB sighting. As there must be at least a dozen variants to this. In my experience only 2 of which work.

>never watch the cue strike the CB...watch the CB leave the cue.

1. Focus on the CB entirely...ignore the cue as you will try to steer it.
or...
2. During backswing transfer eyes midway through to CB as the cue comes to a stop! Once your eyes have refocused...Bingo!

I think I'd struggle to go back as when it's good it's good.

I had a bit of an issue with golf with taking the club away and was a single figure handicapper for donkey's years and just had to accept really good and bad days. I then went to a couple of coaches who then systematically pulled my game apart; by the time they'd finished and I couldn;t play to a 20 handicap, 4 years of mind messing from them had ruined my game and I had to pack in; that's when I took snooker back up again.

Although things aren't quite right and sometimes frustrating I still play to a reasonable standard here and there and a bit edgy on major changes

[inevermissblue]

I think I'd struggle to go back as when it's good it's good.

I had a bit of an issue with golf with taking the club away and was a single figure handicapper for donkey's years and just had to accept really good and bad days. I then went to a couple of coaches who then systematically pulled my game apart; by the time they'd finished and I couldn;t play to a 20 handicap, 4 years of mind messing from them had ruined my game and I had to pack in; that's when I took snooker back up again.

Although things aren't quite right and sometimes frustrating I still play to a reasonable standard here and there and a bit edgy on major changes

Table conditions have a lot to do with it too. Often overlooked. Just been down to the local British legion to show them how good their tables can be. They are over the moon to say the least! Not going to open a can of worms but its not the standard brush, block and iron that most do. These are 'clean' not cleaned! Makes a massive difference.

[Shockerz]

Table conditions have a lot to do with it too. Often overlooked. Just been down to the local British legion to show them how good their tables can be. They are over the moon to say the least! Not going to open a can of worms but its not the standard brush, block and iron that most do. These are 'clean' not cleaned! Makes a massive difference.

It's interesting what you say about table quality and how it's looked after. I've been thinking for a while whats the perfect way to look after a table. I have task lists and we all have an idea what we we think is right but it would be good if we could agree on here the best way to look after tables. Well there's another thread!

[inevermissblue]

It's interesting what you say about table quality and how it's looked after. I've been thinking for a while whats the perfect way to look after a table. I have task lists and we all have an idea what we we think is right but it would be good if we could agree on here the best way to look after tables. Well there's another thread!

Sending you a pm.

[Ramon]

Been discussing this recently and what people have done to try and get over it.

Have any of you guys suffered and what have you done to get over it, did any of it work?

A m8 of mine .

Get all snooker balls off the table.
Throw couple of ping pong balls on the table. and try to pott them. Those balls are much lighter compared to snooker balls .
This forcing your muscles to cue smoother. and put less effort on cue during delivery. otherwise they gonna jumb off the table .
Not to mention mental side of it (in order to distract your mind from solid rhythm which he has used to it and to get red off it ).
BTW , This is not my idea.
If I'm not mistaken , Vmax was the one who advised this few years ago sumwhere on this forum ( can'nt remember which thread was it ).
I pasted it to a friend of mine who had the same problem as your's . He tried it for a week and got red off the Yips .
You may wanna give it try .

[bluenose1940]

We have two tables at our club and they are brushed at the end of every session (end of the day by the last to play) and then are covered. To my knowledge I think that they are ironed once a week.

It would be really good if we could be advised of the correct/best way of keeping our tables in tip top condition. Perhaps someone in the know could post the procedure for all to see.

Many thanks.

[Shockerz]

A m8 of mine .

Get all snooker balls off the table.
Throw couple of ping pong balls on the table. and try to pott them. Those balls are much lighter compared to snooker balls .
This forcing your muscles to cue smoother. and put less effort on cue during delivery. otherwise they gonna jumb off the table .
Not to mention mental side of it (in order to distract your mind from solid rhythm which he has used to it and to get red off it ).
BTW , This is not my idea.
If I'm not mistaken , Vmax was the one who advised this few years ago sumwhere on this forum ( can'nt remember which thread was it ).
I pasted it to a friend of mine who had the same problem as your's . He tried it for a week and got red off the Yips .
You may wanna give it try .

That's a different one. I'll certainly order some ping pong balls today and give it a go!

Thanks.

[Ramon]

That's a different one. I'll certainly order some ping pong balls today and give it a go!

Thanks.

Requires discipline and hard work, though. It's not lots of fun potting ping pong balls. that's for sure.

I hav'nt tried it but i did ask the guy who did .

He said , it's more psychological Side of it . you try cueing for 1 week (few hours a day) with ping pong balls (Do not touch the snooker balls, During that week.). once you swich to snooker balls, your mind is relived. The fear of << the ball's gonna jump off the table >> is gone.
As a result, you gonna cue with alot more confidence. as he said.

Funny thing is , he started to cue alot better as well. LMAO, lol.

Each player is different. just in case it does'nt work for you, you have nothing to lose.
Nasty habit . hope u get red off it asap.

goodluck.

[Shockerz]

Requires discipline and hard work, though. It's not lots of fun potting ping pong balls. that's for sure.

I hav'nt tried it but i did ask the guy who did .

He said , it's more psychological Side of it . you try cueing for 1 week (few hours a day) with ping pong balls (Do not touch the snooker balls, During that week.). once you swich to snooker balls, your mind is relived. The fear of << the ball's gonna jump off the table >> is gone.
As a result, you gonna cue with alot more confidence. as he said.

Funny thing is , he started to cue alot better as well. LMAO, lol.

Each player is different. just in case it does'nt work for you, you have nothing to lose.
Nasty habit . hope u get red off it asap.

goodluck.

Thanks Ramon. I have ordered the ping pong balls and a hammer, either way I will be satisfied. lol

[itsnoteasy]

Is it the yips you definitely have Shockerz or are you just snatching slightly under pressure? To me the yips is not being able to release the cue forward. Could it just be a timing thing for you ?

[Ramon]

Thanks Ramon. I have ordered the ping pong balls and a hammer, either way I will be satisfied. lol

You're welcome my friend .
Enjoy your game !!

[Big Splash!]

Is it the yips you definitely have Shockerz or are you just snatching slightly under pressure? To me the yips is not being able to release the cue forward. Could it just be a timing thing for you ?

Two things can happen when we are tense that are not the yips. The first is to grip the cue too tight and take the cue inside the true shot line when we pull the cue back, the second being to open the hand too much and take the cue outside the shot line in a jerky fashion. Both can result in us cueing across the ball on the fore stroke and missing long pots all day long. I've seen one guy take the cue back with his hand very cocked (not opening his fingers much) outside the shot line, then correct the cue on the fore stroke, so that the cue is back on the shot line when he hits the ball. To be able to do this is a rare skill. He's a very good potter. Most can't get away with that but he's done it for 30yrs so I don't believe he should change now.

The yips is more like taking the cue back and having that horrible feeling at the end of the travel and pausing too long. Hendry had this so there's no shame in it at all. I think me old mucker shockz is brave to say it. Hope he finds a solution to whatever is bugging him.