New Screw Back Technique

[Ramon]

Apparently many people can't.

Rome wasn't built in a day.

[Hello, Mr Big Shot]

Rome wasn't built in a day.

All these people who have played for 30 years and haven't had a break over 40 would agree.

Slaying myths and silencing idiots matters. That many don't understand what happens when objects collide is regrettable, but you can't fix stupid.

[Ramon]

All these people who have played for 30 years and haven't had a break over 40 would agree.

Slaying myths and silencing idiots matters. That many don't understand what happens when objects collide is regrettable, but you can't fix stupid.

Nop,

If it was so easy to buy a heavier cue and just hit the bottom of the CB to play a perfect scw back shot or in order to getting a better result, than we had 20000 Jimmy whits by now, walking around the place, instead of one.
So, sum of those people may found out, that snooker is not their game after all. I would'nt call that stupidity, rather intelligence .

btw, i have nothing against the Science in regards to what happens when objects collide !!

[Slasher]

Nop,

If it was so easy to buy a heavier cue and just hit the bottom of the CB to play a perfect scw back shot or in order to getting a better result, than we had 20000 Jimmy whits by now, walking around the place, instead of one.
So, sum of those people may found out, that snooker is not their game after all. I would'nt call that stupidity, rather intelligence .

btw, i have nothing against the Science in regards to what happens when objects collide !!

Ramon, you are projecting again and missing the key points. I am not sure why because I have explained it many different ways, I can only assume it's the terminology. A heavier cue at the same speed will transfer more energy and yes Jimmy White has the hand eye coordination to hit the white very low with high speed,. Fyi he also played with a 19oz cue.

[Ramon]

Ramon, you are projecting again and missing the key points. I am not sure why because I have explained it many different ways, I can only assume it's the terminology. A heavier cue at the same speed will transfer more energy and yes Jimmy White has the hand eye coordination to hit the white very low with high speed,. Fyi he also played with a 19oz cue.

at the same speed? Yes agree with
hand eye coordination? absolutely
Hit the ball? NOP, striking/acceleration (i believe Nic B, already mentioned this in one of his posts which you was not agree with either?).

Would that be enough? NOP. He needs to deliver the cue stright in order to get the result. (in other words; he needs a decent technique?).

19OZ cue ? it's possible. I never said u can'nt play with a 19oz cue.

[Hello, Mr Big Shot]

Accelerating is also a myth...what's important is not to decelerate. A well timed shot is maintaining speed rather than accelerating or decelerating. Acceleration only happens at the beginning of the stroke.

[Big Splash!]

Accelerating is also a myth...what's important is not to decelerate. A well timed shot is maintaining speed rather than accelerating or decelerating. Acceleration only happens at the beginning of the stroke.

It may only happen at the start of the shot for you! LOL

[Catch 22]

Jesus effin Christ, 2 pages of total cockwomble bull.

Hit the bottom of the cue ball as hard as you can by accelerating quickly and smoothly along a straight cueing line. That's all there is to it. Nothing else. Don't pump the bottom of the cue ball with a tight grip on the cue, this results in stun-screw. Keep the grip open.

That's what Jimmy White used to do and he is the all time King of Spin. Jimmy doesn't know anything about physics and probably couldn't spell it. Go figure!

I agree with you on this one . Jimmy however has said in his videos that he does tighten his grip on impact to get more screw back .
I don't . I try to keep my hand relaxed ....but I'm not Jimmy lol

[Big Splash!]

I agree with you on this one . Jimmy however has said in his videos that he does tighten his grip on impact to get more screw back .
I don't . I try to keep my hand relaxed ....but I'm not Jimmy lol

Yeah, that's advanced cueing. To be able to do that and not snatch the shot is pretty cool and why he's the king of spin. Part genetic, part technique. Beautiful to watch. I'm still waiting for jimmy to come on and do a 36ft top spin shot. Lol He'd probably manage 48.

[Big Splash!]

Ramon, you are projecting again and missing the key points. I am not sure why because I have explained it many different ways, I can only assume it's the terminology. A heavier cue at the same speed will transfer more energy and yes Jimmy White has the hand eye coordination to hit the white very low with high speed,. Fyi he also played with a 19oz cue.

Jimmy lost two world titles due to poor CB. Was that down to a heavier cue or his technique or both? His CB is relatively poor given his talent and his only 147 is ropey. My 19oz cue is dynamic but a mare in the balls. That's why I've dropped to a 17 now.

[jrc750]

.... and his only 147 is ropey......

You say you are a "Former professional snooker player", is that indeed true ?
If so how high did you get in the rankings and what was your highest break ??
Cheers

[vmax4steve]

Accelerating is also a myth...what's important is not to decelerate. A well timed shot is maintaining speed rather than accelerating or decelerating. Acceleration only happens at the beginning of the stroke.

Ronnie says his grip firms up through the stroke to accelerate the cue, so it starts loose and is firmer at the point of tip contacting the cue ball, Jimmy says, the grip tightens on contact (same thing different description), not at the start of the stroke, and closes after the ball is struck to prevent deceleration.

The little screw backs holding the cue between thumb and finger is OK for close in, but those deep power screw shots need something extra, and giving it means no body or head movement caused by tension in the head.

Myself I use the fingers to accelerate the cue when playing power shots, it feels like the tips of my fingers are pulling the cue forwards as I close the grip, start loose but get firmer the more power I need, each to his own.

[itsnoteasy]

Accelerating is also a myth...what's important is not to decelerate. A well timed shot is maintaining speed rather than accelerating or decelerating. Acceleration only happens at the beginning of the stroke.

Start slow, finish fast. If you start fast you have a very good chance of pulling the cue off line and decelerating, it's very hard to maintain top speed all the way through, it's far easier to build it up, this lad knows what he's doing.
https://youtu.be/CiJrYXZhhu8 watch him start slow and accelerate through the ball.

[pottr]

I play with a 19oz cue...

I'd say that being in the balls is the strongest part of my game.

[Ramon]

Accelerating is also a myth...what's important is not to decelerate. A well timed shot is maintaining speed rather than accelerating or decelerating. Acceleration only happens at the beginning of the stroke.

I could say that you can'nt play this game. But I'm not going to cuz that would be harsh and not fair , as i do'nt know you neither I've seen you playing this game.

ROS does ( as well as many other decent players ). That guy can talk to the CB and i bet if you ask him how the hell you pull it off ? . His answer would be : I don't know.
And he has achieved this stage thanks to his talent + hard work.

sum people try to play violin for 20 years and still, they can'nt.
Mozart just picked up the violin when he was a kid and started to play. When they asked him, how do you do it?
He simply said: I do'nt know i just see the notes.

Some people are able to accros the edge of Science (this due to their talent/hard work/or a combination of both ).
and there are always sum other people who just refuse to accept it. that's sad.