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  • #16
    Buckets of Bilston

    Cheers for the invite, former friend x

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    • #17
      Last minute decision mate! Beat Andy Tapper then lost to Jack Harris. Played well all day fancied winning it the standard wasn't brilliant in truth.
      Big buckets but the inconsistency table to table was pretty poor!
      "just tap it in":snooker:

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      • #18
        I'm positively cueing at the moment... The Luke shaped spawn's hitting it pretty well too.

        Almost half annoyed I'm off to SA next week, finally got my game in some sort of shape and 3 weeks off the table I'll be back to Cohl's level when I return

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        • #19
          Originally Posted by pottr View Post
          Buckets of Bilston

          Cheers for the invite, former friend x
          Tom was meant to play me Jack, I couldn't make it so he changed his plans. Good job if he's knocking 70s lol

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          • #20
            Originally Posted by crossFade View Post
            Thanks for your suggestion. It sounds very reasonable. The thing is that I actually feel more comfortable on shots where CB and OB are not so close together. If they are really close together I miss alot of shots. Somehow I find it easier to aim if they are seperated a little more. Also particularly hard I find shots where you have to cut alot, e.g. potting black from its line on the table or underneath it.

            And you are right, I do tend to overthink shots I'm not comfortable with. It is a war over and over again between my logical mind and the smaller intuitional part of it, I will give it a try and let the latter win in my next session :P
            How far away is most comfortable for you? 2-4 feet or 6-10 feet? When you miss your cut shots, do you find you miss them thick or thin?

            Assuming something close to standard snooker stance, make sure to place your toe on the line of the shot and the cue should more or less fall into place with some practice. For example I was stuggling with some thin cut shots recently, missing everything thick, until I realized that my foot was too far to the right of the line. A quick adjustment and everything was right as rain again.

            If you have a coach near you I'd suggest hooking up with them since a lot of the issues that keep you from playing your best will be largely individual.

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            • #21
              Originally Posted by Csmith View Post
              How far away is most comfortable for you? 2-4 feet or 6-10 feet? When you miss your cut shots, do you find you miss them thick or thin?
              I would Say 4+ feet. Iam over proportional good on long shots. Somehow I can't aim right if the distance is under a feet. I played today and at one instance I tried to cut a red under a foot away, black was next to the cue ball but not in the way of the shot. I lined myself up carefully and hit the black which resulted in a foul.

              Could the cue position on my chin cause that?

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              • #22
                Originally Posted by Csmith View Post
                If you have a coach near you I'd suggest hooking up with them since a lot of the issues that keep you from playing your best will be largely individual.
                Unfortunately not, there is a snooker basics course in March that I will be taking. I'm confident on my cueing right now, I'm experimenting with various things. E.g. back foot on line of aim or to the right of it, cue under my left or right eye or in the middle of my chin. Actually Iam right eye dominent but my results are confusing. Sometimes I feel more confident with my left eye, sometimes when the cue is in the middle. I think Ill have to wait for the course.

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                • #23
                  Originally Posted by pottr View Post
                  Stand up and reset the shot.

                  It's not difficult to work out to fix this but I guarantee absolutely every player in the world is guilty of this on more than the odd occasion.
                  I'm not sure if this make me a bottle-merchant, but I seem to lack the mental capacity to stand up and start again. So I'm now concentrating on getting properly lined up in the first place more consistently. I'm currently trying to get my pre-shot routine ingrained to that end.

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                  • #24
                    Originally Posted by crossFade View Post
                    I would Say 4+ feet. Iam over proportional good on long shots. Somehow I can't aim right if the distance is under a feet. I played today and at one instance I tried to cut a red under a foot away, black was next to the cue ball but not in the way of the shot. I lined myself up carefully and hit the black which resulted in a foul.

                    Could the cue position on my chin cause that?
                    That's interesting. Does this include an increased confidence on cut shots at distance too? I played a guy not long ago who was fairly inconsistent in the balls, but long potting was absurdly consistent. But those long pots were mostly straight or just off straight.

                    Cue position could cause it if it varies from shot to shot. Since you are taking a course in March I'd wait for that before making any further adjustments.

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                    • #25
                      Originally Posted by Csmith View Post
                      That's interesting. Does this include an increased confidence on cut shots at distance too? I played a guy not long ago who was fairly inconsistent in the balls, but long potting was absurdly consistent. But those long pots were mostly straight or just off straight.
                      It depends on the cut and the difficulty of the shot (e.g. red is close to cushion etc.). But whenever I play someone new and they give me feedback after the game, they mostly tell me that my cueing is pretty good and straight and that my long shots are awsome.

                      I recently came to a conclusion on my stance and cue positioning. There are two different approaches that work for me:

                      1. Im holding the cue a bit further away from my body and at the same time my hips are leaning outwards (away from the cue). In addition to that I place the cue under my right eye (or right side of my chin).

                      2. Im holding the cue rather close to my body which is almost laying on the cue. My hips are more straight and the cue is placed under my left eye.

                      I will have further testing on both of those options but for now the 2. one looks to be working better for me (even if Im right eye dominent - or at least I think I am)

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                      • #26
                        Originally Posted by crossFade View Post
                        It depends on the cut and the difficulty of the shot (e.g. red is close to cushion etc.). But whenever I play someone new and they give me feedback after the game, they mostly tell me that my cueing is pretty good and straight and that my long shots are awsome.

                        I recently came to a conclusion on my stance and cue positioning. There are two different approaches that work for me:

                        1. Im holding the cue a bit further away from my body and at the same time my hips are leaning outwards (away from the cue). In addition to that I place the cue under my right eye (or right side of my chin).

                        2. Im holding the cue rather close to my body which is almost laying on the cue. My hips are more straight and the cue is placed under my left eye.

                        I will have further testing on both of those options but for now the 2. one looks to be working better for me (even if Im right eye dominent - or at least I think I am)
                        First of all, forget the dominant eye BS. You may have a PREFERRED eye with which you will sight the ball however it's not necessary to have the cue directly beneath that eye. You could have the cue centre chine and turn the head slightly to the right.

                        Don't overthink this and for certain don't be experimenting with everything. Pick one set-up and stay with it. It sounds to me that your best results are coming from having the cue on your chest which is the prevailing theory with most coaches. The cue should have 4 contact points with the body, bridge, chin, chest and grip. When you find your sweet spot for the cue stick with it.
                        Terry Davidson
                        IBSF Master Coach & Examiner

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                        • #27
                          Originally Posted by Terry Davidson View Post
                          First of all, forget the dominant eye BS. You may have a PREFERRED eye with which you will sight the ball however it's not necessary to have the cue directly beneath that eye. You could have the cue centre chine and turn the head slightly to the right.

                          Don't overthink this and for certain don't be experimenting with everything. Pick one set-up and stay with it. It sounds to me that your best results are coming from having the cue on your chest which is the prevailing theory with most coaches. The cue should have 4 contact points with the body, bridge, chin, chest and grip. When you find your sweet spot for the cue stick with it.
                          I totally agree. And I will focus on further improving The 2. version of my approaches. I realized on almost full table length straight pots, that whenever the OB went straight into the pocket, I was aiming a little bit to the right side of it. Now by reflecting this in my after game period, there are more options to approach this. Assuming my cueing is straight do you think I should approach this by;

                          A. Experimenting on my stance (assuming my cue is not perfectly on the line of aim)
                          B. Setting this as my new 'true aim' and try to get my brain in line with this

                          Thanks

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                          • #28
                            Originally Posted by crossFade View Post
                            I totally agree. And I will focus on further improving The 2. version of my approaches. I realized on almost full table length straight pots, that whenever the OB went straight into the pocket, I was aiming a little bit to the right side of it. Now by reflecting this in my after game period, there are more options to approach this. Assuming my cueing is straight do you think I should approach this by;

                            A. Experimenting on my stance (assuming my cue is not perfectly on the line of aim)
                            B. Setting this as my new 'true aim' and try to get my brain in line with this

                            Thanks
                            Do not use one error tro correct another error in your technique. Intentionally aiming right to correct is NOT the way to go. Do some research on there or on youtube and get the correct stance first and then use it. I, along with other coaches, have explained what the correct stance should look like on here and it should be easy to find. Look at the coaching videos on youtube, there are many of them.
                            Terry Davidson
                            IBSF Master Coach & Examiner

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                            • #29
                              Originally Posted by Terry Davidson View Post
                              Do not use one error tro correct another error in your technique. Intentionally aiming right to correct is NOT the way to go. Do some research on there or on youtube and get the correct stance first and then use it. I, along with other coaches, have explained what the correct stance should look like on here and it should be easy to find. Look at the coaching videos on youtube, there are many of them.
                              I think I do have a realtively clear thought on how the stance should be looking (e.g. Im subscribed to Barry Starks Youtube channel and watched all his vids). I actually did alot of research before turning to this forum. The dilemma I proposed on my last post was that its hard for me to tell what is really causing something.

                              Some people say that you might need to 'train your brain' on the sighting when you are in the shot. So for me it is a possibility that I need to train my brain on what straight actually looks like down on the table(which would have been approach B. in the last post). The other thought was that I dont line up correctly when Im going down into the shot. 'Experimenting on my stance' - was the wrong phrasing, I should have written experimenting on how I go down into my shot.

                              Since those shots went in, the cue must have been on the line of the shot - I also didnt feel any corrections my body made unconsciously (I do mostly feel when that happens). My question here is that do you think its possible that my brain just doesnt know how 'straight' looks when Im down in the shot?

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