Sidespin on a snooker table both with and against the nap

[Ramon]

What a topic!

As a beginner I have to say that I've begun to understand game physics, thanks to the lively conversation and educational videos provided in here.
Here's my contribution to the topic, sorry for the bad technique.
https://youtu.be/fjc7Y6q3_7Y

PS. I don't own any cues

Thanks, for your contributions.

Nice to see you cueing like that (start slow delivery and than speed up ).
my kind of taste ( as well as many other 16 breakers )


Nice cueing .

[Hello, Mr Big Shot]

I am amazed there are snooker players on here who are ready to believe someone who doesn't even play snooker, although he does have 20 cues. There are tons of different techniques coming out of the States all the time and nowadays most have video 'proof'. There has to be about 30 'foolproof' aiming systems for starters one can Google.

That must be why the pool pros did so well in the World Champs a few years back and why the British women dominated the US Woman's pool scene for years. It leads me to believe snooker players are doing it right or at least better than pool players and that our theories are correct. If we weren't how come Steve Davis made the last 16 of the World 9-ball Champs and how come snooker players win those Chinese 10-ball tournaments for big bucks? Why can snooker players play pool well when they try it but pool players don't do so well in snooker?

Lol. We have had this discussion before and i won, natch.

No snooker player can ever compete at pool - not now, not ever. Players adapt to their environments - strong fundamentals and straight cueing for snooker; power and creativity for pool. Both take time to learn. The second Ronnie O'Sullivan can do this is the second he becomes competitive at pool. Took SVB decades of dedicated practise to do it, so don't expect it from Ronnie anytime soon.

https://youtu.be/OsG9_yrEZtk

And, as you're such a fan, dr dave's analysis - do point out where he's wrong, won't you?

https://youtu.be/WAEnKCL3stU

PS only selby is competitive at Chinese 8 ball, he's won nothing and he's, er, a pool player. Other than that, spot on, as ever!

[Ramon]

Lol. We have had this discussion before and i won, natch.

No snooker player can ever compete at pool - not now, not ever. Players adapt to their environments - strong fundamentals and straight cueing for snooker; power and creativity for pool. Both take time to learn. The second Ronnie O'Sullivan can do this is the second he becomes competitive at pool. Took SVB decades of dedicated practise to do it, so don't expect it from Ronnie anytime soon.

https://youtu.be/OsG9_yrEZtk

And, as you're such a fan, dr dave's analysis - do point out where he's wrong, won't you?

https://youtu.be/WAEnKCL3stU

PS only selby is competitive at Chinese 8 ball, he's won nothing and he's, er, a pool player. Other than that, spot on, as ever!

Terry ,

He means Dr. Harold !!

[jonny66]

Terry ,

He means Dr. Harold !!

Harold Shipman?? I didn't even know he played.

[Terry Davidson]

Lol. We have had this discussion before and i won, natch.

No snooker player can ever compete at pool - not now, not ever. Players adapt to their environments - strong fundamentals and straight cueing for snooker; power and creativity for pool. Both take time to learn. The second Ronnie O'Sullivan can do this is the second he becomes competitive at pool. Took SVB decades of dedicated practise to do it, so don't expect it from Ronnie anytime soon.

https://youtu.be/OsG9_yrEZtk

And, as you're such a fan, dr dave's analysis - do point out where he's wrong, won't you?

https://youtu.be/WAEnKCL3stU

PS only selby is competitive at Chinese 8 ball, he's won nothing and he's, er, a pool player. Other than that, spot on, as ever!

Just ignore that Davis made the last 16 at World 9-ball then because it doesn't suit your story. Just ignore that the British women snooker players dominated in the USA for years.

[Ramon]

Harold Shipman?? I didn't even know he played.

No, my friend .

Tbh, everytime big shot using Dave's name, Terry&vmax are getting abit upset.
So, I thought we might be able to resolve the situation by using other name.


Anyway, that's it for tonight .
Bed time !!

[travisbickle]

What a topic!

As a beginner I have to say that I've begun to understand game physics, thanks to the lively conversation and educational videos provided in here.
Here's my contribution to the topic, sorry for the bad technique.
https://youtu.be/fjc7Y6q3_7Y

PS. I don't own any cues

Glad you're having fun with the knowledge you have learnt recently snari
Don't tell Terry though as you'll get me/Big Shot into trouble, you being a beginner and all!

[Hello, Mr Big Shot]

Just ignore that Davis made the last 16 at World 9-ball then because it doesn't suit your story. Just ignore that the British women snooker players dominated in the USA for years.

Provide me the evidence for it and I'll discuss it.

[blahblah01]

its this shot, tel you trying to forget about it already? i walk around this shot in the video showing every conceivable angle. this 3/4 ball pots straight? can you see bob?

Hmmmm (the thinking one) I only use it to "create" angle ie hitting the OB fuller and throwing (for want of a better word) off line into the pocket. Maybe that is because I only "see" those ones: but this is definitely worth practicing....

[blahblah01]

Glad you're having fun with the knowledge you have learnt recently snari
Don't tell Terry though as you'll get me/Big Shot into trouble, you being a beginner and all!

I reckon that we can get at least another 50 pages on when a player should start using side to pot

[snari]

I'm not sure if Barry Stark or someone close to him follows this thread, but he released a video about a week ago that explains a lot about what happens when playing these kind of shots. I think the most important thing is the right pace, which Barry mentions in the video.

https://youtu.be/edQIbjdFCms?t=228

[blahblah01]

Here we go again

[tomwalker147]

Hang on Biggie, going back to Selby... the guy didn't start out as a pool player, that sir is a huge myth.

[Terry Davidson]

Hang on Biggie, going back to Selby... the guy didn't start out as a pool player, that sir is a huge myth.

This cannot be possible. Biggie got something wrong and believed the propaganda? He said that about Selby to me on the other string.

[Terry Davidson]

I'm not sure if Barry Stark or someone close to him follows this thread, but he released a video about a week ago that explains a lot about what happens when playing these kind of shots. I think the most important thing is the right pace, which Barry mentions in the video.

https://youtu.be/edQIbjdFCms?t=228

I believe Barry is concentrating more on off-centre striking than anything else here. He has focused on the most important aspect of cueing and he says something that is true in that you can hear a slightly different sound when you cue off centre which is hard to describe but actually happens.