Terry's Videos Showing SIT or No SIT?

[throtts]

Cheers for the videos Terry. Nice set up, must be great to have a knock whenever you feel like it. Only my opinion and my eyes probably gone but for me Jason had the red blocking more of the black than you did. All the shots you attempted are touch and feel shots where great timing is essential, from watching Jason he has this in bucket loads.

Jason's and Terry's blacks are totally different..

[markz]

Jason's and Terry's blacks are totally different..

Cheers throtts, I thought I must be seeing things as Terry seems so certain.

[throtts]

Cheers throtts, I thought I must be seeing things as Terry seems so certain.

No probs, bud. J's black is easier to sink.

[Hello, Mr Big Shot]

Here are 3 videos I recorded today. I apologize for the audio quality as I forgot to turn off the dehumidifier. Turn down the sound a bit and it gets clearer.

https://youtu.be/54R6IhkgPTU
This first one is for Jason who wanted to see if I could actually use spin and as he didn't specify I show bottom, top, RH and LH side. It also shows my cue action still needs some work but I'll probably die of old age before that happens but I'll keep working at it.

https://youtu.be/PGx54N-sw3Y
This second one will be the most contentious one. I play the shot Jason did when BOB was supposed to be covered. I ensured it was and I explain how that can be done in the video. To some here my comments will probably get some really hot comments but I stand by them and if BOB to the far jaw is actually covered you can't slop the ball into the pocket. The angle difference between the 2 chalks is around 2* or maybe a bit more as measured from the centre of the black spot. For the doubters all I can suggest is you set it up as I did and see if you can pot the black since you all likely have a better cue action than I do.

https://youtu.be/TRhs8Bit0ng
The third video is me attempting to hold the black spot on a cut shot. I can't do it with a 3/4-cut so perhaps Travis' cue action is better than mine. I did it successfully in the morning but I wanted to show these videos warts and all. I actually potted the black with RH side and stopped the cueball dead on the spot but I couldn't repeat that on the video however to my embarrassment I did manage to do it with LH side as Travis did but I did hold the spot a little better than he did. For this shot I think the drag is more important than the side and I will post another video showing that (but I'll try it out first in case I'm wrong).

So take a look and take your best shots. I note vmax got the same results as I did but of course generated some comments from Biggy. Just so you know Biggy, I have watched a number of Dr. Dave's videos and I only disagree with the SIT ones and only disagree with those happening on a snooker table with lighter balls and smaller pockets. The rest of his training videos are fine but apply (of course) more to pool where they can be used all the time.

See, I haven't made any snarky comments but I have issued a challenge to Jason on the second video. Jason, please put the camera over the pocket rather than hidden behind your shoulder.

Lol, You're an entertaining presenter.

Lots of SIT in the third video mate. What's important is to see what happens at the point of contact- the selby one is particularly good for illustrating this - the balls just didn't react naturally when they come together, the OB kinda immediately straightens up. A few of your shots do, too. You'll get the hang of this, in time.

Now, concentrate on staying still! I don't know how you can pot a ball with all that body movement, particularly the long shots.

[Hello, Mr Big Shot]

Terry I'm going to try this one when I get home, tbh I thought you were playing the shots a little too hard for SIT to have the desired effect on that angle... but I do think its makable if you play it with the right stroke and speed to just reach the pocket with extreme side.

Plenty of SIT in the third video...

[OmaMiesta]

Plenty of SIT in the third video...

Yea im talking about the cut shot in the 2nd video

[Ramon]

Plenty of SIT in the third video...

Yeah, watched the 3rd vid and it happens few times, indeed.
This is one of them. He's putting LH side (not cueing 100% level, otherwise would throw the ball even more to the right, imo).
Going by the angle at the time of contact you woulda expect the black ends up more to the left (JW of the pocket).



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[travisbickle]

Here are 3 videos I recorded today. I apologize for the audio quality as I forgot to turn off the dehumidifier. Turn down the sound a bit and it gets clearer.

https://youtu.be/54R6IhkgPTU
This first one is for Jason who wanted to see if I could actually use spin and as he didn't specify I show bottom, top, RH and LH side. It also shows my cue action still needs some work but I'll probably die of old age before that happens but I'll keep working at it.

https://youtu.be/PGx54N-sw3Y
This second one will be the most contentious one. I play the shot Jason did when BOB was supposed to be covered. I ensured it was and I explain how that can be done in the video. To some here my comments will probably get some really hot comments but I stand by them and if BOB to the far jaw is actually covered you can't slop the ball into the pocket. The angle difference between the 2 chalks is around 2* or maybe a bit more as measured from the centre of the black spot. For the doubters all I can suggest is you set it up as I did and see if you can pot the black since you all likely have a better cue action than I do.

https://youtu.be/TRhs8Bit0ng
The third video is me attempting to hold the black spot on a cut shot. I can't do it with a 3/4-cut so perhaps Travis' cue action is better than mine. I did it successfully in the morning but I wanted to show these videos warts and all. I actually potted the black with RH side and stopped the cueball dead on the spot but I couldn't repeat that on the video however to my embarrassment I did manage to do it with LH side as Travis did but I did hold the spot a little better than he did. For this shot I think the drag is more important than the side and I will post another video showing that (but I'll try it out first in case I'm wrong).

So take a look and take your best shots. I note vmax got the same results as I did but of course generated some comments from Biggy. Just so you know Biggy, I have watched a number of Dr. Dave's videos and I only disagree with the SIT ones and only disagree with those happening on a snooker table with lighter balls and smaller pockets. The rest of his training videos are fine but apply (of course) more to pool where they can be used all the time.

See, I haven't made any snarky comments but I have issued a challenge to Jason on the second video. Jason, please put the camera over the pocket rather than hidden behind your shoulder.

Just got back and watched the first video.
Respect for doing it warts and all with us vultures on here lol
Haven't read any comments as yet as I need to go to bed!
Just a little comment on your cueing though.
Imo and I'm not a coach btw it needs a little longer backswing and a slow to fast delivery.
It's all a bit quick and jerky atm hence upper body movement and a couple of miscues.
I'll look forward to watching the rest tomorrow morning Tel.

[travisbickle]

I just had a quick look at the video with you trying to hold the black spot.

Can you not see what is happening to the black when you use (inside side)?
It's all there right in front of you yet you can't see it!

Play the black again with running side but aim to hit the black full ball and see what happens.

Try my yellow with (inside side) and there is no way you can hold the CB because you have thrown the yellow the wrong way to pot and hold the CB

This is good stuff here, I think there is finally light at the end of the tunnel lol

Right I really need to get to bed now as it's 3 in the morning

[travisbickle]

Yeah, watched the 3rd vid and it happens few times, indeed.
This is one of them. He's putting LH side (not cueing 100% level, otherwise would throw the ball even more to the right, imo).
Going by the angle at the time of contact you woulda expect the black ends up more to the left (JW of the pocket).



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Correct Ramon.
Good pics
Plays it with running side and he can hit the black full in the face as it would turn left making it easier to kill the CB

[travisbickle]

Hi Terry ,

Firstly , I'm happy to see you look very good for your age. I would say atleast another 50 years to go for you and i mean it !!

as for vid , I had the feeling that the way you did set up and aimed the shot in 2nd vid, was not the same as what I've seen in J6 vid. I may be wrong, though!!

Regarding your cueing, I am in no position at all to criticize you, you're the coach.
But imo, if you deliver the cue abit more fluent and not so fast, you may get sum better results.
In my book , start slow with delivery and than speed up , is realy important . ( something i noticed J6 and Travis did both very well ) .
But again , I may be wrong.

Gonna watch one more time ( in case i may missed something ) .
and many thanks for your effort regarding this matter .

https://youtu.be/2M-MKsBeBf8
Can you do some still pics of this shot Ramon?

[throtts]

On my high 3/4 black pot, off the spot, to then hold the spot, ( towards pink and playing green side ) using LHS I was aiming on the black pretty much full ball.

Hows your nails, travis.

Terry, your a funny dude

[travisbickle]

On my high 3/4 black pot, off the spot, to then hold the spot, ( towards pink and playing green side ) using LHS I was aiming on the black pretty much full ball.

Hows your nails, travis.

Terry, your a funny dude

Hopefully Terry will see sense.
The truth is in the 3rd video
I'm surprised he can't see what's happening here!

[Hello, Mr Big Shot]

Hopefully Terry will see sense.
The truth is in the 3rd video
I'm surprised he can't see what's happening here!

Vmax was getting the same effect, once he started cueing correctly, but stopped recording as soon as he did.

Denial is amazing.

[Ramon]

https://youtu.be/2M-MKsBeBf8
Can you do some still pics of this shot Ramon?

Good morning my friend ,

Sure !!
At the moment i have some problems with my internet conection , can'nt use my laptop .
God knows who the hell messed up with my internet again .* Sending this msg via my phone right now.
As soon as i get sorted out , gonna upload the pictures from your video .