Terry's Videos Showing SIT or No SIT?

[throtts]

No, I am not debating your shot. I am just saying we have to take each others word for ball set up..

Not a shot for in a match however. Pressure can create a tightening of the grip or a slight twitch..

[Hello, Mr Big Shot]

There is no SIT in any of my videos but since you are still dreaming about the results you are seeing I will make another couple of videos where that will be proven. I have some medical appointments in the next couple of days but I'll get to it.

Oma...get on a table and try it yourself exactly the way I set up the shot in #2. You have to freeze the balls together to get the right alignment rather than what Travis did and separate one of the balls. You have to be certain BOB is hidden and if it is and you still throw the ball in then you have SIT. If you can't, it proves there is no SIT. I used a spotted CB to show the spin.

Same goes for you Biggy. Get off your arse and do a video proving SIT on a snooker table. You sit back there and criticize but none of us have seen you on video. My set-up and shots in #2 prove SIT does not happen in that shot. Did I shoot it too hard for SIT to take effect? I'll do another one for all the doubters out there who are assuming SIT exists in snooker without any hard proof and without trying it themselves. If SIT doesn't exist in snooker you are guilty of doing a very shoddy thing and convincing player a fantasy in your mind is reality. As I said long ago, just like Trump in that regard.

Christ on a bike...

You asked for the physics and i provided it for you. Now, tell me where the physics breaks down on a snooker table only.

[Terry Davidson]

if i had my own table instead of using my noodles to work things out and/or you did these clear videos sooner we wouldnt be dragging each other through bushes.
anyway, i am right in thinking your bob means the actual ob potting contact point? cus if so your bob was covered by up to 1/3


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I set my BOB up for the inside of the far jaw and potted it slowly there with plain ball (the chalk nearest the pocket). I then set my BOB up to point at the chalk furthest from the pocket which I thing is about 1.5" from the inside jaw. I couldn't pot the ball with extreme RH side although now some are saying I hit the ball too hard to allow SIT. I guess SIT is a very fragile think which disappears easily.

[j6uk]

I set my BOB up for the inside of the far jaw and potted it slowly there with plain ball (the chalk nearest the pocket). I then set my BOB up to point at the chalk furthest from the pocket which I think is about 1.5" from the inside jaw. I couldn't pot the ball with extreme RH side although now some are saying I hit the ball too hard to allow SIT. I guess SIT is a very fragile think which disappears easily.

how did you get on with the straight shot i turned in?
if you tried it did you do it with setting both bobs mine and yours to the two chalks? if so how you get on?

[Terry Davidson]

My example tells you SIT exists throtts.

Putting the yellow there first showing you it's touching both the red & black means BOB is never in play.

TD will say I swerved into the gap because red black weren't touching.

Facts are though there is no gap to swerve into as Red/black were touching the yellow.

Then Travis, why did you change the set-up for your shot? Try it exactly as I set it up, all 3 balls frozen, CB/Black to 2" outside the inside of the far jaw. If you can pot it then SIT exists and if you can't then it doesn't. Video will prove it however even then your shot was pretty good.

[Hello, Mr Big Shot]

Yes it is isn't it biggie. Try the triangle test and tell Dr. Dave about it, and then maybe he will stop 'proving' SIT with plants and sets where it's squeeze that's doing the funny stuff not side, then the US just might stand a chance of getting a player with a cue action good enough to be a top snooker player instead of facing every shot with a head full of acronyms.

One side: Science and proof. Testimony of millions of players.

Other side: two idiots who cannot play.

Hmmmm...

[Terry Davidson]

No, I am not debating your shot. I am just saying we have to take each others word for ball set up..

Not a shot for in a match however. Pressure can create a tightening of the grip or a slight twitch..

I agree. If I move Travis red just one millimeter closer to the black it's easily pottable. The red/black alignment is 6" from the green pocket outside jaw (although the jaws can vary on different tables, mine is template WPBSA).

[Terry Davidson]

Christ on a bike...

You asked for the physics and i provided it for you. Now, tell me where the physics breaks down on a snooker table only.

I don't know. Tell me why the black won't pot in my set-up which Travis changed to his set-up. I don't care enough to sit on my ass working out equations. I'd rather go to the table and prove my theory, unlike you who dished out this stuff without checking it out first. You have to check it out thoroughly because if there's any possibility at all that you are wrong you are guilty of misleading a lot of members on here. The 2 who have checked besides me cannot slop the ball in.

[Terry Davidson]

how did you get on with the straight shot i turned in?
if you tried it did you do it with setting both bobs mine and yours to the two chalks? if so how you get on?

I couldn't really tell how much your red was covering the black but I looked hard at your video where I paused it with camera directly behind the pot. Iwas able to pot the ball plain ball with drag. With my set-up 6' from green jaw I couldn't get any closer than that same chalk. Your set-up was on the far jaw of the green pocket (but who knows as we can't look at it and you didn't think to check at the time.)

[travisbickle]

Then Travis, why did you change the set-up for your shot? Try it exactly as I set it up, all 3 balls frozen, CB/Black to 2" outside the inside of the far jaw. If you can pot it then SIT exists and if you can't then it doesn't. Video will prove it however even then your shot was pretty good.

Like I said to throtts, there is no gap to swerve into as both were touching.
I could only go as close to BOB as the yellow was.
Still pics prove me right.
Correct BOB is not even in the picture.

[Hello, Mr Big Shot]

I set my BOB up for the inside of the far jaw and potted it slowly there with plain ball (the chalk nearest the pocket). I then set my BOB up to point at the chalk furthest from the pocket which I thing is about 1.5" from the inside jaw. I couldn't pot the ball with extreme RH side although now some are saying I hit the ball too hard to allow SIT. I guess SIT is a very fragile think which disappears easily.

The conditions for maximum throw are well known and have been explained to you many times.

A slowly struck sliding cue ball (stun) with a medium amount of side produces the most throw. New or very clean balls throw much less than older or dirtier ones, and extreme side is counterproductive.

You cannot argue with friction.

[Hello, Mr Big Shot]

I don't know. Tell me why the black won't pot in my set-up which Travis changed to his set-up. I don't care enough to sit on my ass working out equations. I'd rather go to the table and prove my theory, unlike you who dished out this stuff without checking it out first. You have to check it out thoroughly because if there's any possibility at all that you are wrong you are guilty of misleading a lot of members on here. The 2 who have checked besides me cannot slop the ball in.

My friend, i have been playing with throw for at least 10 years. You have been playing with throw for about 10 minutes.

Come back to me when you can cue a ball good enough to see the effects for yourself. Vmax too.

[travisbickle]

My friend, i have been playing with throw for at least 10 years. You have been playing with throw for about 10 minutes.

Come back to me when you can cue a ball good enough to see the effects for yourself. Vmax too.

This is going to be a very very long thread then if that's the case lol

[Hello, Mr Big Shot]

Like I said to throtts, there is no gap to swerve into as both were touching.
I could only go as close to BOB as the yellow was.
Still pics prove me right.
Correct BOB is not even in the picture.

Furthermore, these 'experiments' are stupid. Just learn to cue a ball and you'll see it on every shot. That Terry and vmax can't do something is neither here nor there, frankly.

[travisbickle]

Furthermore, these 'experiments' are stupid. Just learn to cue a ball and you'll see it on every shot. That Terry and vmax can't do something is neither here nor there, frankly.

True.
Scary how TD can't see the black moving to his right when trying to pot it with check.
Not a natural contact whatsoever.