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  • Originally Posted by Hello, Mr Big Shot View Post
    It's just a loss of pride. Snooker has been insular for decades, swimming in its own stagnant ponds. It simply hasn't taken advantage of technology like the rest of cue sports has.

    I suspect Terry and vmax have been swimming in very small, stagnant ponds indeed, where they are the big fish. This suits them: it gives them a power base and, by extension, leverage. We see this all the time in leagues, both snooker and pool, where the same people do the same things, year in and year out, refusing change.

    High time snooker started becoming more outward looking. It's dead in this country and will be dead fullstop if the Chinese lads fade away. Snooker in 5 year's time could look very different.
    I'm being a bit kind by saying "new tricks" as I've known about these shots for donkeys years.
    The fact that a qualified coach doesn't know about how OBs throw is poor form imo.
    Vmax I can understand lol
    Last edited by travisbickle; 23 September 2017, 06:24 PM.

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    • Post 347 and still going, jeeps...

      Its all been said hasn't it. Its a competition now of what mob can convince the other, hahaha.

      Jason, are you in Big Bad Biggies and Deputy Travis's gang?. Have you been fully recruited ?...
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      • Originally Posted by travisbickle View Post
        I'm being a bit kind by saying "new tricks" as I've known about these shots for donkeys years.
        The fact that a qualified coach doesn't know about how OBs throw is poor form imo.
        Vmax I can understand lol
        Why do you say things that just aren't true Travis? I've known about OB throw probably longer than you've been alive. It's not something 'recently discovered' by your hero. Nic Barrow was my trainer and he certainly knows about it and we worked with it on my training courses. That was at least 9 years ago, before you even picked up a cue I imagine.
        Terry Davidson
        IBSF Master Coach & Examiner

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        • Originally Posted by Hello, Mr Big Shot View Post
          It's just a loss of pride. Snooker has been insular for decades, swimming in its own stagnant ponds. It simply hasn't taken advantage of technology like the rest of cue sports has.

          I suspect Terry and vmax have been swimming in very small, stagnant ponds indeed, where they are the big fish. This suits them: it gives them a power base and, by extension, leverage. We see this all the time in leagues, both snooker and pool, where the same people do the same things, year in and year out, refusing change.

          High time snooker started becoming more outward looking. It's dead in this country and will be dead fullstop if the Chinese lads fade away. Snooker in 5 year's time could look very different.
          So now you two, Mr. Big and deputy taxi driver are just trading the same posts with no new info in them at all. Why is it BS sticks around a snooker forum when he obviously thinks the game is dying. Spend your time on AZ Billiards why don't you?
          Terry Davidson
          IBSF Master Coach & Examiner

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          • Originally Posted by Terry Davidson View Post
            Why do you say things that just aren't true Travis? I've known about OB throw probably longer than you've been alive. It's not something 'recently discovered' by your hero. Nic Barrow was my trainer and he certainly knows about it and we worked with it on my training courses. That was at least 9 years ago, before you even picked up a cue I imagine.
            It is true Tel.

            The fact that you think checkside is the only way you can hold the CB says it all
            In your video you got loads of throw yet you couldn't see it (just like vmax)
            Do you ever watch what OBs do when you use side??
            I really don't think you do.

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            • Originally Posted by travisbickle View Post
              It is true Tel.

              The fact that you think checkside is the only way you can hold the CB says it all
              In your video you got loads of throw yet you couldn't see it (just like vmax)
              Do you ever watch what OBs do when you use side??
              I really don't think you do.
              I can hold a cueball using drag or either type of side but I prefer to try and hit the ball dead-on if I can. I didn't see any throw and you did, big deal. Did it effect the results of the shot? No, I close my eyes when I use side so you're right.
              Terry Davidson
              IBSF Master Coach & Examiner

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              • Originally Posted by Terry Davidson View Post
                I can hold a cueball using drag or either type of side but I prefer to try and hit the ball dead-on if I can. I didn't see any throw and you did, big deal. Did it effect the results of the shot? No, I close my eyes when I use side so you're right.
                It is a big deal.
                Yes it did effect your shot.
                Why did you think the black kept missing to your right then when you played with checkside and vice versa with running side?
                Last edited by travisbickle; 23 September 2017, 09:09 PM.

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                • Originally Posted by travisbickle View Post
                  It is a big deal.
                  Yes it did effect your shot.
                  Why did you think the black kept missing to your right then when you played with checkside and vice versa with running side?
                  Denial. Ain't just a river in Africa.

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                  • Originally Posted by Terry Davidson View Post
                    So now you two, Mr. Big and deputy taxi driver are just trading the same posts with no new info in them at all. Why is it BS sticks around a snooker forum when he obviously thinks the game is dying. Spend your time on AZ Billiards why don't you?
                    Azb, for all its faults, has no one - count them - no one that doesn't understand throw.

                    That's 60,000 members, scores of coaches and dozens of pros, and not one of them is in any doubt over what *really* happens when balls collide.

                    TSF, on the other hand, has around 20 active members, about 2 coaches, and zero pros. Two posters - count them - two posters haven't a clue what happens when balls collide.

                    Hmmm...If you want to make comparisons, let's go like for like, eh?

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                    • Originally Posted by Hello, Mr Big Shot View Post
                      Azb, for all its faults, has no one - count them - no one that doesn't understand throw.

                      That's 60,000 members, scores of coaches and dozens of pros, and not one of them is in any doubt over what *really* happens when balls collide.

                      TSF, on the other hand, has around 20 active members, about 2 coaches, and zero pros. Two posters - count them - two posters haven't a clue what happens when balls collide.

                      Hmmm...If you want to make comparisons, let's go like for like, eh?
                      No but it has me, and I am also on the physics forum which is maybe where this thread should be. Can I ask that you guys keep it friendly please.
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                      • Originally Posted by Hello, Mr Big Shot View Post
                        Azb, for all its faults, has no one - count them - no one that doesn't understand throw.

                        That's 60,000 members, scores of coaches and dozens of pros, and not one of them is in any doubt over what *really* happens when balls collide.

                        TSF, on the other hand, has around 20 active members, about 2 coaches, and zero pros. Two posters - count them - two posters haven't a clue what happens when balls collide.

                        Hmmm...If you want to make comparisons, let's go like for like, eh?
                        oh and there are a large number of pros who are members it is just that posters like MB has driven them into silence!
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                        • In case any one interested , our fellow member played an excellent shot .
                          about the same shot as the shot in Jason's video . (Much better camera angle in this vid imo)
                          I tok a few screen shots and you can view it here :



                          http://www.thesnookerforum.co.uk/boa...228#post941228
                          Last edited by Ramon; 24 September 2017, 04:53 AM.

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                          • Originally Posted by vmax View Post
                            You have tried and failed travis, you play shots set up with the side door (pun intended) left open to save face. All you people reading this thread should try potting a ball with BOB to the far jaw hidden by a touching ball by 2mm so that the cue ball cannot approach it from any angle whatsoever and contact BOB to the far jaw without hitting the touching ball first.
                            If SIT is real then you can do it, if not then it doesn't exist except through increased friction due to a bad contact.

                            Terry has experimented with putting chalk on the contact point and got SIT to happen, cleaned it off and it didn't happen, and we all know that a bad contact makes you miss a pot on the thick side, but we don't want bad contacts do we, that's why we use composite balls that are very highly polished to keep friction between balls to a minimum, otherwise this game would be impossible.
                            It's touching , NO gap !!

                            Even I ( with my 16 H break ) can see that !!

                            Enjoy the show !!




                            http://www.thesnookerforum.co.uk/boa...228#post941228

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                            • Originally Posted by Hello, Mr Big Shot View Post
                              Azb, for all its faults, has no one - count them - no one that doesn't understand throw.

                              That's 60,000 members, scores of coaches and dozens of pros, and not one of them is in any doubt over what *really* happens when balls collide.

                              TSF, on the other hand, has around 20 active members, about 2 coaches, and zero pros. Two posters - count them - two posters haven't a clue what happens when balls collide.

                              Hmmm...If you want to make comparisons, let's go like for like, eh?
                              Why are you here at all then?
                              Terry Davidson
                              IBSF Master Coach & Examiner

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                              • Originally Posted by ADR147 View Post
                                No but it has me, and I am also on the physics forum which is maybe where this thread should be. Can I ask that you guys keep it friendly please.
                                Just bantz mate.

                                Have you asked them about it on the physics forum?

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