Parris Cues

[ADR147]

i know for sure - it was a barracuda gold medal cue and at the time barracuda in kirkham was kevin muncaster.

[ste bed]

i didnt know it was a barracuda but i do know kevin worked for them as i told me when he lenghtened 2 cues for me he told me he used to be an engineer started working for barracuda but the boss wanted to branch out and start making guitars and such and he left and set up his work shop (shed) in freckelton he does make very nice cues though.

[kevy62]

oops forgot about ronnie - think 2 of his hree are with parris the other with a burwat.

kevin muncaster made the cue mark williams won two world titles with.

didn't mr Davis win 6 world champs with a parris ambassador

[Oldgit]

didn't mr Davis win 6 world champs with a parris ambassador

No......Steve Davis won 6 world championships with a 'Ye Olde Ash' cue that John Parris made into a 3/4 joined cue.

[ADR147]

didn't mr Davis win 6 world champs with a parris ambassador

nope another myth.

[platt]

the case with davis was the start of the jp band wagon... and he has played it well.

[snookergr]

Hi All,


I had to post a comment because I feel the discussion is very one sided.

There is no doubt that John Parris is the most experienced cue maker in the business.

Almost 40 out of the top 50 pros were at one stage using (many of them still are) cues made or altered by him. That means that all pros respect him and trust him.

He has top quality cues and especially the hand made ones are great.
There certainly is value for money.

The finish on the cues by John Parris is something special.
Weight distribution and feel is extraordinary.
One you play with a Parris cue you cannot change it.

Steve Davis & John Parris literally invented the SD joint (hence the initials) which can be found on every cue nowadays.
Of course every maker is looking to make some profit. Nobody works for free in this world.

It is also a fact the Mike Wooldridge can produce some fine cues.
To be fair I have tried a Wooldridge cue (the top quality range) and found it to be very solid and reliable.

I have never tried Trevor White’s or Kevin Muncaster’s cues.
I’ve heard that they are of top quality too.

I prefer a Parris cue obviously and I have to say I have been working with him for the last decade and he has surprised me with every new order or alteration.

Again being fair to all cue makers, each maker has a different finish, a different wood selection, different staff handling the work etc.

It all depends on how old the ash wood is, how dry, how straight and at the end of the day it will all depend on how much time every cue maker has spent in making it.

It is definitely unfair to mention that if you buy a cue from JP you will be wasting your money, and you will get no good service etc. etc.
I can respect the fact that it is good to support the competition BUT we also have to respect the world’s number one cue maker.

Finally, note that I am seriously thinking in ordering a couple of cues from Trevor and Kevin for collection purposes and by all means I am not suggesting that all other makers are not good and professional.

Cheers!

Snookergr

[ADR147]

Hi All,


I had to post a comment because I feel the discussion is very one sided.

There is no doubt that John Parris is the most experienced cue maker in the business. this is total rubbish - complete and total rubbish do a bit of research before you post.

Almost 40 out of the top 50 pros were at one stage using (many of them still are) cues made or altered by him. That means that all pros respect him and trust him. this is also not true. 40 / 50 never been anything like that.

He has top quality cues and especially the hand made ones are great.
There certainly is value for money. they are all now hand made value for money depends on whether or not you like the cue but no i don't think the basic range is expensive.

The finish on the cues by John Parris is something special. why???????
Weight distribution and feel is extraordinary. this depends on each individual cue - NO two cues are the same so it is a silly claim to make.
One you play with a Parris cue you cannot change it. also not true i know plenty of people who have!

Steve Davis & John Parris literally invented the SD joint (hence the initials) which can be found on every cue nowadays. i thought matthew stevens invented this idea on modern cues
Of course every maker is looking to make some profit. Nobody works for free in this world.

It is also a fact the Mike Wooldridge can produce some fine cues.
To be fair I have tried a Wooldridge cue (the top quality range) and found it to be very solid and reliable. yes he can there are about 20 makers who can.

I have never tried Trevor White’s or Kevin Muncaster’s cues.
I’ve heard that they are of top quality too. they are

I prefer a Parris cue obviously and I have to say I have been working with him for the last decade and he has surprised me with every new order or alteration.

Again being fair to all cue makers, each maker has a different finish, a different wood selection, different staff handling the work etc.

It all depends on how old the ash wood is, how dry, how straight and at the end of the day it will all depend on how much time every cue maker has spent in making it. there are limitless factors.

It is definitely unfair to mention that if you buy a cue from JP you will be wasting your money, and you will get no good service etc. etc.
I can respect the fact that it is good to support the competition BUT we also have to respect the world’s number one cue maker. i have never said you would be wasting your money just that £750 is a bit steep.

Finally, note that I am seriously thinking in ordering a couple of cues from Trevor and Kevin for collection purposes and by all means I am not suggesting that all other makers are not good and professional.

Cheers!

Snookergr

hate to be a pain but some of this post is just wrong.

[noel]

hate to be a pain but some of this post is just wrong.

=^..^= fight!!


o)


Noel

[snookergr]

Dear ADR 147,

Point 1.
Firstly there is no cue that would cost 750 quid in the Parris store.
There is no way John Parris would ask from an amateur player £750 for the simple fact that his most expensive cue (ultimate type) costs 440 pounds!
Such type i.e. the "ultimate" is still the best piece of cue there is in the market made to measure.
I can understand the fact that you would like to support your own preferred makers, for one reason or the other (that is your own business and it might be a profitable one) BUT at least be realistic.
The fact that his most expensive cue costs 440 pounds can be confirmed with just one simple visit at
https://www.parriscues.com/home.html

Point 2
JP is the most experienced maker according to the opinion of Stephen Hendry 7 times world champion.
Stephen used to use a Powerglide Connoisseur 1 piece maple cue which had a "Rex Williams" signature above the splices he had this cue since he was a kid.
This was until it was snapped in airport transportation,
He now uses a plain black ebony/maple 3/4 cue, custom made by Parris.
Stephen said that JP is the most experienced and wanted to take care of his cue and alterations.
To confirm the above see the relevant article:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/oth...y-off-cue.html

Note: The word “rubbish” is not actually a supported argument.

Point 3
Yes it is Steve Davis who put his initials “SD” for the SD joint and together with Parris they brought this innovation in the cues it was not Stevens.
Reference: web John Parris homepage

Anyway as I said time and time again in my previous post, I prefer JP cues and I believe that JP does not have a very strong competition apart from only a couple of makers who tend to keep a low profile.
I am only expressing my HO regarding the unfair play against the world’s leading cue maker.

At the end of the day, it is just personal preference (such preference is shown by O'Sullivan, Steve Davis, Stephen Hendry etc.) and since I do not make or earn any money from the sales that John Parris makes, I will not continue this entertaining chat because I have to practise with my new Parris cue.

Once again respect to all makers who try to produce our magic wands!

Enjoy your snooker!

Snookergr

[Harv]

There is a cue on the website for 467 quid lol

[snookergr]

It's true ! LOL
Limited edition one though :-)

[ste bed]

do you work for john parris snookergr

[bonoman1970]

Why all this Parris knocking,its simple ...if you dont like his cues you dont have to buy them,I personally do not and never have bought one ,but I still do not undesrtand what all this is about,if you want one ....buy one ....
if you dont......dont!

[ADR147]

Dear ADR 147,

Point 1.
Firstly there is no cue that would cost 750 quid in the Parris store.
There is no way John Parris would ask from an amateur player £750 for the simple fact that his most expensive cue (ultimate type) costs 440 pounds!
Such type i.e. the "ultimate" is still the best piece of cue there is in the market made to measure.
I can understand the fact that you would like to support your own preferred makers, for one reason or the other (that is your own business and it might be a profitable one) BUT at least be realistic.
The fact that his most expensive cue costs 440 pounds can be confirmed with just one simple visit at
https://www.parriscues.com/home.html it is my business and i have the paper work to prove it but i am too lazy to bother - there are plenty of forum members who have paid a lot more that 440 for a parris cue. please own up boys. !!

Point 2
JP is the most experienced maker according to the opinion of Stephen Hendry 7 times world champion.
Stephen used to use a Powerglide Connoisseur 1 piece maple cue which had a "Rex Williams" signature above the splices he had this cue since he was a kid.
This was until it was snapped in airport transportation,
He now uses a plain black ebony/maple 3/4 cue, custom made by Parris.
Stephen said that JP is the most experienced and wanted to take care of his cue and alterations.
To confirm the above see the relevant article:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/oth...y-off-cue.html total nonsense - i know about cues and its just not the case, check your facts.

Note: The word “rubbish” is not actually a supported argument. this is rubbish he uses an acuerate 147 cue - i know because it is my job to know.

Point 3
Yes it is Steve Davis who put his initials “SD” for the SD joint and together with Parris they brought this innovation in the cues it was not Stevens.
Reference: web John Parris homepage i am going by the first time i have seen one used .

Anyway as I said time and time again in my previous post, I prefer JP cues and I believe that JP does not have a very strong competition apart from only a couple of makers who tend to keep a low profile.
I am only expressing my HO regarding the unfair play against the world’s leading cue maker. nothing unfair in my opinions i think john is a good cue maker and a leader in the field but lets try and keep the facts in order.

At the end of the day, it is just personal preference (such preference is shown by O'Sullivan, Steve Davis, Stephen Hendry etc.) and since I do not make or earn any money from the sales that John Parris makes, I will not continue this entertaining chat because I have to practise with my new Parris cue. neither hendry nor davis use a parris cue!

Once again respect to all makers who try to produce our magic wands!

Enjoy your snooker!

Snookergr

you understand this is my job and i know all of the people concerned?