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  • #76
    I made up a very simple version of this "Sight Right" gadget, and sure enough, my sighting was a touch off... What I don't know is the best way to overcome this... If I move to correct it, how do I know during play that i'm moving too much or not enough?

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    • #77
      Originally Posted by humperdingle View Post
      I made up a very simple version of this "Sight Right" gadget, and sure enough, my sighting was a touch off... What I don't know is the best way to overcome this... If I move to correct it, how do I know during play that i'm moving too much or not enough?
      the way i've found is to move to the left or to the right until you're definitely NOT looking at the line of aim.

      then gradually move back the other way and you'll suddenly see the line of aim. you feel a bit silly doing this at first but you soon start to realise where you should be standing correctly.

      this is my experience anyway.
      Highest Match Break 39 (November 10th 2015)

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      • #78
        Cue along the baulk line, yes, cue along the baulk line. This is the start of a long journey to becoming a cuist

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        • #79
          Surely if you place 2 reds either side the brown, blue, pink and black spots with half inch to an inch gap either side, play the cueball off the brown spot onto the top cush with enough speed to bring the white back to baulk you will see if your not cueing straight??

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          • #80
            Originally Posted by j6uk View Post
            Cue along the baulk line, yes, cue along the baulk line. This is the start of a long journey to becoming a cuist
            Can you give us the details of exactly what you do here? I have done what I think is the baulk line drill a million times, it never shows any problems.. but I cannot cue straight. Only playing over the spots with power, or blues into the middle or corners with follow shows it up.
            "Do unto others 20% better than you would expect them to do unto you, to correct for subjective error"
            - Linus Pauling

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            • #81
              Originally Posted by spike007 View Post
              Surely if you place 2 reds either side the brown, blue, pink and black spots with half inch to an inch gap either side, play the cueball off the brown spot onto the top cush with enough speed to bring the white back to baulk you will see if your not cueing straight??
              I can do this quite comfortably, however it doesn't aid sighting, all this demonstrates is cueing straight.

              the problem I have is I can cue straight and hit centre white, but if I am not on the correct line to pot i will miss.

              I think this is where there is confusion. Straight cueing and getting on the correct line of aim are two different things. I feel that the sightright might be of help to get onto the correct line.

              the baulk line exercise again demonstrates straight cueing, as its a solid line when you get down it doesn't matter if you are slightly left or right what you see is a straight line anyway, yes cueing over the line will show if your cue moves off line, but that is a cueing issue. the sight right has an advantage as it can show you immediately if you are cueing across as the line on the lower step will be broken.

              I feel if at least I can satisfy myself that every time I get down I am straight on the line of aim, if I miss after that it must be body movement
              Last edited by alabadi; 30 May 2013, 11:24 AM.

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              • #82
                Originally Posted by alabadi View Post
                I can do this quite comfortably, however it doesn't aid sighting, all this demonstrates is cueing straight.

                the problem I have is I can cue straight and hit centre white, but if I am not on the correct line to pot you will miss.

                I think this is where there is confusion. Straight cueing and getting on the correct line of aim are two different things. I feel that the sightright might be of help to get onto the correct line.

                the baulk line exercise again demonstrates straight cueing, as its a solid line when you get down it doesn't matter if you are slightly left or right what you see is a straight line anyway, yes cueing over the line will show if your cue moves off line, but that is a cueing issue. the sight right has an advantage as it can show you immediately if you are cueing across as the line on the lower step will be broken.

                I feel if at least I can satisfy myself that every time I get down I am straight on the line of aim, if I miss after that it must be body movement
                agreed. the other thing i usually can (and you will be able to) feel if i haven't cued right. sighting is done naturally and accurately but only if u pick the right place to stand in the first place!

                i found incredibly my long potting vastly improved after doing the 5 reds 5 blacks line up and learning i was standing in the wrong place. this is because you start to recognise similar angles around the table and learn where to stand. for the most part my misses with long potting weren't cueing but were simply bad sighting (ie bad original standing position)
                Highest Match Break 39 (November 10th 2015)

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                • #83
                  Originally Posted by alabadi View Post

                  the problem I have is I can cue straight and hit centre white, but if I am not on the correct line to pot you will miss.

                  I think this is where there is confusion. Straight cueing and getting on the correct line of aim are two different things. I feel that the sightright might be of help to get onto the correct line.
                  Maybe i'm being stupid here but if youve spaced the reds half inch either side of the colour spots, infact remove the ones by the blue and pink spots. played the cueball down through them and back again without hitting the brown spot ones on the way back surely your cueing and your sighting is good. You saw where you had to play the ball and where you wanted the white to finish and you did it.

                  The way i understand it is that if you use a sightright and the 2 lines dont line up your not sighting correctly. Well its 14" long by 12" wide going by their website, the 2 lines are probably 7" long each. My cueing action has about 10-12" from bridgehand to tip and then i am to judge in the area between 6-8" whether the 2 lines, the thickness of a marker pen, line up exactly when all i've done is address a piece of wood. What if they dont? whats the % amount thats classed as ok? I think it would give more accurate results if the device was modified to accept a cueball and you aimed at an object ball in a precise position 10-11 feet away so you had something to line up on and then the object ball and second line cover were removed.

                  I dont own one and havent tried one so cant say it doesnt work, i do take endorsements with a pinch of salt though, Mclaren F1 used to have Shell Oil all over their car when they used ELF
                  Last edited by spike007; 30 May 2013, 11:28 AM.

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                  • #84
                    Originally Posted by spike007 View Post
                    Maybe i'm being stupid here but if youve spaced the reds half inch either side of the colour spots, infact remove the ones by the blue and pink spots. played the cueball down through them and back again without hitting the brown spot ones on the way back surely your cueing and your sighting is good. You saw where you had to play the ball and where you wanted the white to finish and you did it.

                    The way i understand it is that if you use a sightright and the 2 lines dont line up your not sighting correctly. Well its 14" long by 12" wide going by their website, the 2 lines are probably 7" long each. My cueing action has about 10-12" from bridgehand to tip and then i am to judge in the area between 6-8" whether the 2 lines, the thickness of a marker pen, line up exactly when all i've done is address a piece of wood. What if they dont? whats the % amount thats classed as ok? I think it would give more accurate results if the device was modified to accept a cueball and you aimed at an object ball in a precise position 10-11 feet away so you had something to line up on and then the object ball and second line cover were removed.

                    I dont own one and havent tried one so cant say it doesnt work, i do take endorsements with a pinch of salt though, Mclaren F1 used to have Shell Oil all over their car when they used ELF
                    I think that when cueing to the first line which is the raised bit, its like cueing to the center of the cueball, putting the tip to the line, I mean we are cueing to a spot on the cueball no larger than a mm anyway, the second line only demonstrates that you are cueing on a straight line.

                    i.e lets say that an object ball was directly centred an aligned to that second line a few feet away, if both lines are not broken this shows that when you get down on the shot you are lined up correctly to strike exactly what you are looking at when standing, which is center in this case.

                    Spikeyou are correct with the up and down the spots routine that is shows you are cuing straight, however the margin for error is greater, you can be from a few mm to almost a cm out an still make it. but we know especially over distance, potting needs to be precise sometimes the tolerances are in mm which will be exaggerated over a distance.

                    I am not here advocating the SightRight and to be honest I haven't trained on one yet, I have made myself a make-shift one and want to try it out to see if I am lining up right or not.
                    who knows I might be lining up correctly anyway, but at least I need to know so I can eliminate this aspect as a problem with my game.

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                    • #85
                      I feel i need to make one now to prove myself right/wrong

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                      • #86
                        Originally Posted by spike007 View Post
                        I feel i need to make one now to prove myself right/wrong
                        it wouldn't hurt to try, at least then you know

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                        • #87
                          Yes you would think so but on the baulk line you can truly visualize what the cue is doing without any contact. Get on it!!

                          Originally Posted by spike007 View Post
                          Surely if you place 2 reds either side the brown, blue, pink and black spots with half inch to an inch gap either side, play the cueball off the brown spot onto the top cush with enough speed to bring the white back to baulk you will see if your not cueing straight??

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                          • #88
                            Please tell in detail what you have done a million times on the bulk line?

                            Originally Posted by nrage View Post
                            Can you give us the details of exactly what you do here? I have done what I think is the baulk line drill a million times, it never shows any problems.. but I cannot cue straight. Only playing over the spots with power, or blues into the middle or corners with follow shows it up.

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                            • #89
                              Yeah I like that and it all starts from the feet..

                              Originally Posted by armstm View Post
                              agreed. the other thing i usually can (and you will be able to) feel if i haven't cued right. sighting is done naturally and accurately but only if u pick the right place to stand in the first place.

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                              • #90
                                Try 8-10" and straight cueing on the baulk line.
                                I cue 6-8.

                                Originally Posted by spike007 View Post
                                My cueing action has about 10-12" from bridgehand to tip and then i am to judge in the area between 6-8" whether the 2 lines, the thickness of a marker pen, line up exactly when all i've done is address a piece of wood.

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