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  • Danger Steve
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    Originally Posted by arnold jones View Post
    Thank you for your response.
    For your information, some years ago, the Club commitee decided to change the room layout, and moved the 2 tables exactly as I described but in reverse sequence.
    The work was carried out by members, shifting the tables on trolley jacks or simmilar to their present lications.
    It is hoped that the tables can be returned to the previous locations.
    How much would it cost to have table fitters dismantle, move and re-assemble the tables I wonder.
    Further comments would be appreciated.
    Ok… you got me! Your winding me up

    So you wanted to know how to move two tables at your club, and now your saying they already moved them previously in the way you described? Bit of a contradiction there arnold … Get the trolley jacks back out buddy! Seemed to work for you last time!

    Do tell us what mysterious club this is you speak of, so I know never to play there on the two damaged snooker tables.

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  • arnold jones
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    Thank you for your response.
    For your information, some years ago, the Club commitee decided to change the room layout, and moved the 2 tables exactly as I described but in reverse sequence.
    The work was carried out by members, shifting the tables on trolley jacks or simmilar to their present lications.
    It is hoped that the tables can be returned to the previous locations.
    How much would it cost to have table fitters dismantle, move and re-assemble the tables I wonder.
    Further comments would be appreciated.

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  • Danger Steve
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    Originally Posted by arnold jones View Post
    There are discussions at my Club, relating to improving the layout of the Games Room, which would involve relocating two snooker table within the room. One table would be moved 5.5 m approx., and the other also moved 5.5 m approx., and also rotated 90 deg.. All on a carpeted solid concrete ground floor slab.
    Is there any way that the tables could be moved using trolley jacks or similar (by club members) without having to dismantle and re-assemble the tables at great cost by table fitters?.
    I look forward to any comments and or advice from anyone on the proposal.
    Errrrrrr NO! No chance

    The moment you have to lift a table it’s game over! So before you even try I’d say don’t bother, you’ll just damage either the table, or worse someone might get hurt! A snooker table weighs approximately 1 ton, they are heavy for a reason, and that is so they stay still when you play snooker. Trying to lift one to slide something in under the legs and then move it without causing the table any stress would be virtually impossible! The only way would be to hire a specialist team who would excavate beneath it and somehow slide in a jack that would take the weight without the table moving a millimetre, like some sort of specialist archeological team, it would probably cost you about a million quid to have the two tables relocated!…. I’d just get a table fitter! Much cheaper.

    Where is your club? If you where local to me I might be willing to help you out.
    Last edited by Danger Steve; 20 June 2022, 07:11 AM.

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  • arnold jones
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    There are discussions at my Club, relating to improving the layout of the Games Room, which would involve relocating two snooker table within the room. One table would be moved 5.5 m approx., and the other also moved 5.5 m approx., and also rotated 90 deg.. All on a carpeted solid concrete ground floor slab.
    Is there any way that the tables could be moved using trolley jacks or similar (by club members) without having to dismantle and re-assemble the tables at great cost by table fitters?.
    I look forward to any comments and or advice from anyone on the proposal.

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  • Danger Steve
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    Originally Posted by arnold jones View Post
    What exactly are cushion blocks?
    Forgive my ignorrance.
    They are basically a separate piece of wood that can be replaced, they are fixed to the main cushion. The cushion rubber is glued to the blocks. Sometimes after years and years of having cloth changed and the rubber changed the block can get a bit worn out so they get replaced! The new blocks are made from Poplar (a hardwood) and cut to a more modern size which seats the cushion lower on the table creating a lower contact point between the rubber and the ball, which in turn gives a better bounce! The other benefit is you can see more of the cue ball when playing off the cushion! Of course much of the setup is down to the fitter, each probably has their own way of doing things, and the older fitters generally stick to the old ways! You could ask your fitter to plane the existing blocks if there are in good condition, but you have to be careful not to have them set too low or you’ll actually get balls bouncing upwards off the cushion! The sweet spot is to have the bottom nose of the rubber contact the ball just above centre
    Last edited by Danger Steve; 17 June 2022, 12:35 PM.

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  • arnold jones
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    What exactly are cushion blocks?
    Forgive my ignorrance.

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  • mikee
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    Older tables had slightly higher cushions ,this makes for a slower bounce ,the modern table the blocks are set lower ,makes for a faster table but the downside of this is that when the cloth wears the balls can bounce in the air of the cushion . Got to strike that happy medium to get it just right .

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  • Danger Steve
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    Originally Posted by arnold jones View Post
    The cushions on my snooker table are quite high above table bed, making life difficult when the the cue ball is tight on the cush.
    Can anyone tell me if there is a standard or regulation height for the cushion and/or rubber above the slate bed.
    Approximately 38-39 mm from cloth to the top of the cushion. 29-30 mm to the bottom nose of the cushion to the cloth.


    If fitting new blocks to your cushion these usually come planed to size, around 36mm..
    Last edited by Danger Steve; 15 June 2022, 08:37 PM.

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  • DeanH
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    Originally Posted by arnold jones View Post
    The cushions on my snooker table are quite high above table bed, making life difficult when the the cue ball is tight on the cush.
    Can anyone tell me if there is a standard or regulation height for the cushion and/or rubber above the slate bed.
    Again, some years ago this was discussed, and again no table fitter has every confirmed the dimensions you ask for.
    I found an old image of a cross-sections of a cushion where the height of the cushion was noted at 39mm from the bed; and the profile of the cushion at point of contact on a ball was 30mm.

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  • arnold jones
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    The cushions on my snooker table are quite high above table bed, making life difficult when the the cue ball is tight on the cush.
    Can anyone tell me if there is a standard or regulation height for the cushion and/or rubber above the slate bed.

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  • Delphi
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    Originally Posted by Cue crafty View Post
    Just posting on this thread to keep it alive! I'd like to see some new content from new people as well.

    Locally a new small club has opened with 4 tables, 3 BCE Westbury and a Star. They want to keep a membership of around 100 and the fee is around 60 GBP pa. Table rates are excellent at 2 quid per person per hour on the BCE tables and 2:50 for the Star. Solo rate is the per person singular charge so very reasonable for my neck of the woods. Have a friend who knows the manager and is going to check it out next week so hopefully we will have another place to play and mix things up a bit.

    Be good to hear of any other news like this from new members and old.
    I wonder if there are clubs in England that have the same system as my club.
    We pay a big annual fee (325 euro) but are never charged for table usage, all in all a better system for players i think.

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  • Delphi
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    Originally Posted by Danger Steve View Post
    I’d like to see a few shed projects on the go?? C’mon..
    You can expect mine in coming fall

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  • mikee
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    This comes up all the time and has been discussed for years ,pocket size is a strange one and all tables are not the same .it’s not just the pocket size. But the shape and the undercut of the rubber .Most club tables have bigger pockets as it generates more income for the club as new players want to pot balls ,if the games too hard they won’t come back .Some clubs with lots of tables will have a couple that are tighter than standard club size .Generally a pocket should be no bigger than 3.5 inches at the slate fall ,straight cut angle into the pocket with no undercut on the nose of the rubber .Some tables have had their slate falls filed away to make the pocket bigger .As a rule tighter pockets suit fast tables as the ball does not need to be batterd around too much .On my table you can fit a credit card in the pocket just behind the slate fall and it will sit there snug ,at my club it will just fall the the floor ,in other words most club tables have bigger pockets .Are the guys that are saying the pockets are too big knocking in tons every week .

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  • arnold jones
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    If the WPBSA Rules do not define the size and shape of the pockets then the pockets can be as big as anyone decides.

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  • arnold jones
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    Many visiting teams complain that the pockets on our club tables are too big.
    Where in the WPBSA Rules of Snooker does it define the size and shape of the pockets?
    Regards Arnold

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