Kevin DeRoo cue maker

[Kevin DeRoo]

LOL have to warn you Kevin, there are people lined up here with PhD's in Applied Physics who've done the math, the simulations and the trials who just live for the chance to assert that you can never have zero deflection when using side.

Hey , Thanks for the warning, but I know better than to say "Zero" because that would be false.

[Kevin DeRoo]

Hi Kevin , just reading to your repsonse re : the deflection and you mention a ferrule type . Are you using a different ferrule material than the standard one's ?

Hi Neil
We have three Ferrule types to choose from for snooker cues - Brass - thin walled Stainless steel - Fiber ferrule-
For the full effect of a low deflection shaft we recommend the fiber ferrule.
Thanks
Kevin

[Kevin DeRoo]

Yes , I will be glad to share what I know.
I think I remember Johnny.

[poolqjunkie]

Regarding deflection ;Our laminated shafts generally have no deflection with a cueball to object ball separation of 4 feet
at medium power (even with extreme siding ) .

Hey , Thanks for the warning, but I know better than to say "Zero" because that would be false.

I was just wondering what you meant when you said your shafts generally have no deflection with a cueball to object ball separation of 4 feet at medium power (even with extreme siding )...

Although "no" usually means "zero" but I figure you probably meant something else which is why I asked you.

Correct me if I am wrong but you have given more than one cue to Marco over the years, is that correct? Would you mind to tell us when did Marco start using his currect cue?

Thank you.

[Kevin DeRoo]

Yes ,my assumption was that the reader would relate "no" to 'no compensation"
The player does not have to compensate for cue ball deflection.
Regarding extreme siding (especially under low power)-the player will have to compensate for object ball "kick" but this
is not due to cue ball deflection and will happen with any shaft , regular or low deflection
Marco's cue was made in 1996

[poolqjunkie]

Kevin, thank you for the answer.
I know Marco was looking for a cue before he left Vancouver when he was presented with a Tom Gauthier cue and your cue and he chose yours. I was just wondering if he is still using the same cue or perhaps he has switched to a new cue from you. The cue I saw him used looked to be in top condition, almost looked like a new cue.
I have tried a few of your ash cues (although I could not afford to own any...LOL) and I feel that the playability of your cues is very good and consistent. The quality of snakewood and burr that you select are also very outstanding.
I notice that you use very high ebony prongs on your cues--much higher than any other cues by other makers--may I ask is there a special reason for that?
Welcome to the forum. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.
Best wishes.

[Kevin DeRoo]

Yes it is the same cue and is an example of the cue quality . With all the traveling the pros do its very hard on cues.
The longer Ebony results in a much better cue design for a number of reasons.
Thanks
Kevin

[MikeWooldridge]

The longer Ebony results in a much better cue design for a number of reasons

Does it?

I am not sure what exactly what length you are referring to nor the reasons that make it a 'much better cue design'

Please enlighten us.

[the montrealer]

Hi Everyone. Just letting you know I'm on the forum now. I look forward to interacting with you all.

Hi Kevin i am from Montreal Quebec Canada your cues are great there are a few players here that are using your Cues Rodney Cuillerier and also Alberto Camera which are pretty good players. I like the finish of your cues also note that your cues remain straight for years. Cheers Leonard

[Kevin DeRoo]

Hey thanks Leonard , One of the thing that has built our reputation is our very stable shaftwood
Say hi to those guys for me.

[Kevin DeRoo]

Does it?

I am not sure what exactly what length you are referring to nor the reasons that make it a 'much better cue design'

Please enlighten us.

He is referring to the overall length of the Ebony from the base of the cue to the top of the Ebony splice.
The main thing that happens when this length is increased is the balance point of the cue goes forward naturally.We needed to achieve this because we wanted our 3/4 shaft cues to maintain a wood to wood joint -not brass to brass -(which produces
the weight with metal) and our customers did not want any "Fat Shafts" -those thicker tapers . The second reason was with regards to 1-piece cues ,we needed to be able to make 1-piece cues between 18 ozs. to 18.5 ozs. without larger grip sizes and again
without "fat shafts" and without adding metal weight which typically made the cue "butt heavy ".
So overall it resulted in a good cue design and our customers are happy.
Thanks
Kevin

[the montrealer]

Hey thanks Leonard , One of the thing that has built our reputation is our very stable shaftwood
Say hi to those guys for me.

HI Kevin i will cheers Leonard

[MikeWooldridge]

He is referring to the overall length of the Ebony from the base of the cue to the top of the Ebony splice.
The main thing that happens when this length is increased is the balance point of the cue goes forward naturally.We needed to achieve this because we wanted our 3/4 shaft cues to maintain a wood to wood joint -not brass to brass -(which produces
the weight with metal) and our customers did not want any "Fat Shafts" -those thicker tapers . The second reason was with regards to 1-piece cues ,we needed to be able to make 1-piece cues between 18 ozs. to 18.5 ozs. without larger grip sizes and again
without "fat shafts" and without adding metal weight which typically made the cue "butt heavy ".
So overall it resulted in a good cue design and our customers are happy.
Thanks
Kevin

thanks, but i'm a little confused.

after reading pqj's question again, i can see he actually referred to the 'prongs', not the overall length.

so, how long are the 'prongs' and what is the overall butt length on your 1pc cues?

are you using a wood thread joint then on 3/4 cues?

[Terry Davidson]

MW:

The DeRoo cues have butterfly splices (or at least all the ones I've seen) rather than the regular 4-point splices used by most other cuemakers.

Also, one of the problems with 1-piece cues seems to be getting the weight up over 18oz without having a thick and dense shaft or butt but it looks like Kevin overcomes that by increasing the length of the ebony but doing it in a way that doesn't bring the balance point back.

I had a Will Hunt GP 1-piece that had very long ebony splices and it weighed 18.8oz, which is very unusual in a 1-piece I think

Terry

[Deepscrew]

My pals JP was sent back due to a rattle the other day, they admitted to using weights in the butt which as you say can make the cue butt heavy.