Cues and what you prefer or class as the best

[billabong]

Anybody seen that tumbleweed smiley ?

[Master Blaster]

it reminded me of this one that recently was for sale but had no nibbles
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/John-Parri...p2047675.l2557

I don't like that one so much, the red and burl blend and the burl is enough by itself; overload. There's no black vaneers to keep the burl in check either, as per the black vaneers bracketing the rosewood (?) on 2v's. Yes, the 3 ebony vaneers on 2V's cue are very important, calming elements, framing the other colours. The eBay cue looks unbalanced as a design.

[bolton-cueman]

looking at over a grand, surely?

[Master Blaster]

looking at over a grand, surely?

48 splices and vaneers at JP, not cheap!

I've got to give it to you 2V, this is a hell of an an intro/hello, best yet. You join and drop a 48 vaneer JPU on the forum; off the radar! Good on ya chap.

[vmax4steve]

really - read back through the thread. I am trying to explain as politely as I can that your cue will not be balanced at 20" but you don't appear to get it. anyway enough from me, i hope it makes you happy.

How do you come to that conclusion ADR ? as the cue will be a 3/4 the Parris elves can easily drill up the shaft from the joint to place a small weight and get a balance point wherever the customer desires it.

If the cue was a one piece they could split the shaft at the 3/4 mark before the cue is spliced, drill up the longer shaft length and place a weight, fix the two pieces back together and then splice on the butt to get the same result.

[Master Blaster]

How do you come to that conclusion ADR ? as the cue will be a 3/4 the Parris elves can easily drill up the shaft from the joint to place a small weight and get a balance point wherever the customer desires it.

If the cue was a one piece they could split the shaft at the 3/4 mark before the cue is spliced, drill up the longer shaft length and place a weight, fix the two pieces back together and then splice on the butt to get the same result.

Sounds messy, surely if you split a one piece shaft, it isn't a one-piece anymore? I can see your logic w.r.t. a 3/4 though. What has always bugged me about JP is his use of joints. I love 1 piece cues but if he's going to do a joint, why not a wood on wood joint, ala MW et al., more wood feel is a good thing.

[ADR147]

How do you come to that conclusion ADR ? as the cue will be a 3/4 the Parris elves can easily drill up the shaft from the joint to place a small weight and get a balance point wherever the customer desires it.

If the cue was a one piece they could split the shaft at the 3/4 mark before the cue is spliced, drill up the longer shaft length and place a weight, fix the two pieces back together and then splice on the butt to get the same result.

try it is the best i can say.

[RogiBear]

How do you come to that conclusion ADR ? as the cue will be a 3/4 the Parris elves can easily drill up the shaft from the joint to place a small weight and get a balance point wherever the customer desires it.

If the cue was a one piece they could split the shaft at the 3/4 mark before the cue is spliced, drill up the longer shaft length and place a weight, fix the two pieces back together and then splice on the butt to get the same result.

The cue is 59.5" long and 3/4 and 19oz, I suppose it depends on whether it is made with extra length to the shaft or the butt. If the latter I feel you would not only have to place the weight quite far up the shaft (could make it feel dead imo) but also core a substantial amount of the butt to achieve anything near 20" bp

Sounds messy, surely if you split a one piece shaft, it isn't a one-piece anymore? I can see your logic w.r.t. a 3/4 though.

That's how most thai cues are made

[Master Blaster]

That's how most thai cues are made[/QUOTE]

Oh dear, sounds cut and shunt. Say that quickly.

Joints; what's the point, they add nothing to a cue at all and take away feel. But that's how JP likes them. It wouldn't be so bad if it was a plastic joint with a density closer to ash/ebony. Brass dulls everything. Not having a go at JP in particular, a lot of cue makers use something similar. I've never liked the feel of them. A wood on wood joint is a bit more special which is what an Ultimate should have.

[2v1977]

Lets agree to disagree on the balance point. Who really cares where the f****ing balance point will be. Will it really matter to my game, probably not. it really doesn't matter if its 15", 20" or 25". I really don't care.

I have dropped the biggest veneered cue this forum has ever seen and I love it.

I guess I don't know much about cues but never the less the centuries will still fly in. I won't ever be good enough to be a pro so the small issue of not knowing where the balance point will be is totally irrelevant.

If I haven't said it already, Hello everyone and thanks for the big welcome to the forum.

[Master Blaster]

Lets agree to disagree on the balance point. Who really cares where the f****ing balance point will be. Will it really matter to my game, probably not. it really doesn't matter if its 15", 20" or 25". I really don't care.

I have dropped the biggest veneered cue this forum has ever seen and I love it.

I guess I don't know much about cues but never the less the centuries will still fly in. I won't ever be good enough to be a pro so the small issue of not knowing where the balance point will be is totally irrelevant.

If I haven't said it already, Hello everyone and thanks for the big welcome to the forum.

Slainte! Yeah, if the cue balances at 17/18" it won't matter too much. And as you say, the tons will still go in. And that's the point for me, you're at a level where you can enjoy a JPU and get the most out of it, like the pros mate. If you don't like it, we can always swap.

[billabong]

Lets agree to disagree on the balance point. Who really cares where the f****ing balance point will be. Will it really matter to my game, probably not. it really doesn't matter if its 15", 20" or 25". I really don't care.

I have dropped the biggest veneered cue this forum has ever seen and I love it.

I guess I don't know much about cues but never the less the centuries will still fly in. I won't ever be good enough to be a pro so the small issue of not knowing where the balance point will be is totally irrelevant.

If I haven't said it already, Hello everyone and thanks for the big welcome to the forum.

Hi 2v,
I was trying to figure out why your post count stayed at 2 when you've posted lots ?
Maybe you need to post outwith the "newbies & introductions" folder ?

[ADR147]

Lets agree to disagree on the balance point. Who really cares where the f****ing balance point will be. Will it really matter to my game, probably not. it really doesn't matter if its 15", 20" or 25". I really don't care.

I have dropped the biggest veneered cue this forum has ever seen and I love it.

I guess I don't know much about cues but never the less the centuries will still fly in. I won't ever be good enough to be a pro so the small issue of not knowing where the balance point will be is totally irrelevant.

If I haven't said it already, Hello everyone and thanks for the big welcome to the forum.

could i kindly request that you moderate your language

[ADR147]

Slainte! Yeah, if the cue balances at 17/18" it won't matter too much. And as you say, the tons will still go in. And that's the point for me, you're at a level where you can enjoy a JPU and get the most out of it, like the pros mate. If you don't like it, we can always swap.

yep it will be 16-17" i expect.

[tedisbill]

Massive wind up this thread!

Master Blaster and 2v1977 are the same person, and there's no way anybody would order a cue like that lol

Good fun though.