Cues and what you prefer or class as the best

[Byrom]

I'm only joking buddy - Barry been a pro a while cant go wrong there

[Dozza19792]

http://www.crispianjonescues.com/cer...ooker-cue.html

They look good

[Terry Davidson]

Terry, here is the post I wanted you to look at. Cheers

Never saw that post. The only pro I know who always has his back finger off the end of the cue is Mathew Stevens and I believe Mark Allen keeps his baby finger on top of the cue on a lot of shots. I teach bridge length between 9-12" and depending on the player's height and arm length and I also teach the bridge arm slightly bent.

However some good players have 13-14" of cue out there but I've never noticed any with less than 9" except when the two balls are close together. In the end it's all a matter of personal preference. A lot of players like the feel of the grip with the back finger off the end of the cue and even Steve Davis once commented that he liked that grip. One thing is does do is take the baby finger completely out of the picture which would help some players not to turn the cue (usually using the wrist joint). Joe Davis wasn't too tall and he had 4" of cue out the back even with his bridge arm ramrod straight.

It becomes a matter of personal choice and what feels good to the individual player and also the length of his preferred cue.

Trade-off is a longer bridge gives the player a longer sighting length and would normally help with longer pots. I've experimented a bit and at 6ft in height Ive found even at 10" I feel cramped so I prefer right around 12" but I don't dictate this to my students...each to his own.

On the JP Ultimate topic I thought JP took a larger deposit but I haven't checked his website. I have also heard an Ultimate 3/4-butt takes about 18 months and a 1pc takes 'up to' 2 years. Far to long for me to wait. And yes, MW does take 100% deposit, which I feel is a bit unfair as even if someone doesn't want the cue in the end he would have no trouble selling it as long as the specs were OK. Same with an Ultimate. If JP made an Ultimate and the buyer refused to pay for it and he posted it on here there would be a near riot to be first to get it if the price was his normal price.

[Master Blaster]

They look good

They play very well as well. 750 for hours best work compares nicely to mw, Parris, glover etc.

[jrc750]

..I have also heard an Ultimate 3/4-butt takes about 18 months and a 1pc takes 'up to' 2 years. Far to long for me to wait. ..

Must be old info Terry as it now says on his site;
"Ultimate Cues 12-18 months for 16” 3/4 cues and 30-40 months for 1pc, 2pc and 12” butt joint cues"
Plus "Parris Cues cannot be held liable for cues taking longer than the approximate times above"
So wouldn't be surprised if some take 3 1/2 years !!!!!!!!!!

[Byrom]

30-40 months now - blooming eck by the time it arrived I would be knocking on for nearly a fifth of Terry's age

[golferson123]

Get a new coach

No, get on a new coach for a long trip

[j6uk]

aint been on a coach for ages, far to much time to think

[jrc750]

aint been on a coach for ages, far to much time to think

Best to take a bike ride, gotta concentrate 100% to stay alive
If i find my mind wandering i head straight home

[Leo]

He does.....unlike MW who insists on all the money up front

Crispian Jones is another cue maker who ask for full payment upfront I belive.

[2v1977]

I'm only joking buddy - Barry been a pro a while cant go wrong there

He is definitely good. Still a top 100 player and beat O-Sullivan in a tour event final in 2010.

[2v1977]

Crispian Jones is another cue maker who ask for full payment upfront I belive.

Got an email from CJ saying once I know what I want he will take a deposit.

[2v1977]

Must be old info Terry as it now says on his site;
"Ultimate Cues 12-18 months for 16” 3/4 cues and 30-40 months for 1pc, 2pc and 12” butt joint cues"
Plus "Parris Cues cannot be held liable for cues taking longer than the approximate times above"
So wouldn't be surprised if some take 3 1/2 years !!!!!!!!!!

Yep, it's gonna be a long wait for the Palm tree to arrive

[2v1977]

Never saw that post. The only pro I know who always has his back finger off the end of the cue is Mathew Stevens and I believe Mark Allen keeps his baby finger on top of the cue on a lot of shots. I teach bridge length between 9-12" and depending on the player's height and arm length and I also teach the bridge arm slightly bent.

However some good players have 13-14" of cue out there but I've never noticed any with less than 9" except when the two balls are close together. In the end it's all a matter of personal preference. A lot of players like the feel of the grip with the back finger off the end of the cue and even Steve Davis once commented that he liked that grip. One thing is does do is take the baby finger completely out of the picture which would help some players not to turn the cue (usually using the wrist joint). Joe Davis wasn't too tall and he had 4" of cue out the back even with his bridge arm ramrod straight.

It becomes a matter of personal choice and what feels good to the individual player and also the length of his preferred cue.

Trade-off is a longer bridge gives the player a longer sighting length and would normally help with longer pots. I've experimented a bit and at 6ft in height Ive found even at 10" I feel cramped so I prefer right around 12" but I don't dictate this to my students...each to his own.

On the JP Ultimate topic I thought JP took a larger deposit but I haven't checked his website. I have also heard an Ultimate 3/4-butt takes about 18 months and a 1pc takes 'up to' 2 years. Far to long for me to wait. And yes, MW does take 100% deposit, which I feel is a bit unfair as even if someone doesn't want the cue in the end he would have no trouble selling it as long as the specs were OK. Same with an Ultimate. If JP made an Ultimate and the buyer refused to pay for it and he posted it on here there would be a near riot to be first to get it if the price was his normal price.

Great info. Thanks.

[Master Blaster]

Get a new coach

Why? I reduced down to 9" on the advice of a very good playing friend, to take up the 'compact' set-up. I'm done with that tbh, big power drop for me. My coach advised to lengthen a bit, maybe an inch or two. I've found it to be useful. When I started playing snooker, I'd be cueing at 12" and ended up at 9", so to be at 10.5" after some coaching is bang in the middle. Maybe Terry can comment on this aspect?

Ok Byrom, so the best cue you've ever had was a JPU. Good stuff. I think Pottr, a very good player on here also uses a JPU. And then all these pros including the best ever also use a JPU. I'm seeing a pattern here.................