2020 World Grand Prix - B

[balkend]

Great performance from Lisowski this afternoon, a sublime last red, green to yellow then yellow back to green to get over the line and take his 1st win against Shaun. The lad has bags of ability and it was a pretty mature performance from him today, good hearing him talk about having to curb his excitement! That gives me hope, there is still time for him to mature and learn to deal with that better and win big.

Just such a great cueist to watch flow..

yes i love watching him play , he reminds me a bit of un nooh , both wonderful to watch but both liable to have easy inexplicable misses , shaun murphy made very many unforced errors. it would be great for jack to win a title but the unforced misses would have to be at a minimum

[Danger Steve]

yes i love watching him play , he reminds me a bit of un nooh , both wonderful to watch but both liable to have easy inexplicable misses , shaun murphy made very many unforced errors. it would be great for jack to win a title but the unforced misses would have to be at a minimum

I don’t get the whole Lisowski thing... He’s OK, but that’s about it.

[Starsky]

I think Lisowski’s appeal is that he plays with a bit of flair which is lacking in the modern player. He hasn’t got that robotic manner to his play that seems to be the technique that younger new pro’s strife for and have been coached to play like. They might have good technique but I find most modern players as boring as hell to watch.

If he could improve his consistency and stop switching off on shots which must be why he misses those easier balls then I think he could win some titles .

[ken147]

Trump and O'Sullivan are playing tonight. Which match will ITV4 show or is there an option to watch both?

[Cue crafty]

I don’t get the whole Lisowski thing... He’s OK, but that’s about it.

I didnt get what all the fuss was about until I see him play in top form last year against Robertson in I think maybe the CoC comp. He went toe to toe with Robbo then and it really showed what he is capable of. I guess I just love an underdog with talent who looks like they could do better as I was always a Jimmy fan when he was in his pomp.

Stuff like this helps too...

[DeanH]

Trump and O'Sullivan are playing tonight. Which match will ITV4 show or is there an option to watch both?

I think it will be ROS on the TV, ITV does not have a "table 2" option

and at the moment the Chinese site is having issues as all links are going to the old Yan vs Wilson match from last night!

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I didnt get what all the fuss was about until I see him play in top form last year against Robertson in I think maybe the CoC comp. He went toe to toe with Robbo then and it really showed what he is capable of. I guess I just love an underdog with talent who looks like they could do better as I was always a Jimmy fan when he was in his pomp.

Stuff like this helps too...

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is there any such thing as an underdog in modern pro snooker , if lisowski fitted that bill he'd be someone scraping for pro table time somewhere coming in and out of the q school for the last five years , underdog my woolwich arsenal .

[DeanH]

I think it will be ROS on the TV, ITV does not have a "table 2" option

an at the moment the Chinese site is having issues as all links are going to the old Yan vs Wilson match from last night!

finally they get the right match
only missed 2 frames

[Nifty50]

Anyone know what cue McGill is using atm. Looks like Maple but don’t know make. He had an Exquisite at one time but was also tinkering about with Maximus or maybe it was Ton Praram.

[DeanH]

Anyone know what cue McGill is using atm. Looks like Maple but don’t know make. He had an Exquisite at one time but was also tinkering about with Maximus or maybe it was Ton Praram.

Last I heard it was a Maximum Ultimate, which was from mid~2016 so could have changed

[Nifty50]

Last I heard it was a Maximum Ultimate, which was from early 2017 so could have changed

Thanks Dean. Maybe Frazz will know and post up.

[Mark187187]

Pretty sure it's a Maximus. He had an Exquisite before, ash though.

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Zhao Xintong

, dark horse to make it to the final ? this is Jack's opportunity to make a big impression on a tournament , should be a good match, ditto for Martin Gould , if he plays to his best with confidence . Hope its the outsiders turn to win something big and knock the established big names.

[Cue crafty]

is there any such as thing as an underdog in modern pro snooker , if lisowski fitted that bill he'd be someone scraping for pro table time somewhere coming in and out of the q school for the last five years , underdog my woolwich arsenal .

Well depends how you look at what an "underdog" is. The bookies would have him as the underdog and thats where i'm coming from with this. We all know your hatred of privileged pro's with access to top facilities, and yes he has that I agree. However all the privilege in the world will not help you beat John Higgins or Judd or Ronnie, iron will, determination and bottle will only do that.

Young Zhou Xintong showed he had that tonight! well played.

Maybe Hossein Vafhaei is your idea of a true underdog? Listened to his interview after his great win today and that seems to fit your definition quite well. Good player.

[trains]

Well depends how you look at what an "underdog" is. The bookies would have him as the underdog and thats where i'm coming from with this. We all know your hatred of privileged pro's with access to top facilities, and yes he has that I agree. However all the privilege in the world will not help you beat John Higgins or Judd or Ronnie, iron will, determination and bottle will only do that.

Young Zhou Xintong showed he had that tonight! well played.

Maybe Hossein Vafhaei is your idea of a true underdog? Listened to his interview after his great win today and that seems to fit your definition quite well. Good player.

‘ Underdog ‘ being just a figure of speech in terms of the exclusivity of the pro game and affording to stay there , just on reflection now i think if i hated anyone in snooker i don’t think i’d watch and certainly wouldn't make any views public about it , in my case though i probably don’t see it as much as most in describing players as ‘ talented ‘ for me its more a combination of familiarity and psychology which i can’t be bothered and dont think its much worth postulating on , not for a second espousing my opinion as fact its just something i’ve gravitated to .

‘ hate ‘ good lord picking up a cue in the first place out of interest of the game i’d need much more reason than getting my rear end handed to me at the q school for that my fellow sf posting person , peace .

Also don’t know about vafaei’s case but someone like kacper filipiak apparently only earned 4k last season , who’s propping him up , maybe he’s living off air like casper the friendly ghost i dunno , peace .