Cazoo Players Championship 2022

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reply to Danger Steve , quote not working.

I think the chinese strike rate of winning tournaments is actually quite decent especially after bingtao and xintong’s double success this season , also ding relatively speaking hasn’t been a pro that long and has 22 tournament wins of which 14 were ranking events , has to be somewhere up there.

The o sullivans higgins williams allens selbys wont be supplanted they’re too well rounded players and the socio economic conditions and world snooker itself doing its best to protect them , what other sport would its top ambassadors call lower ranked players numpties or taking the food off their table and then having them as presenters on the bbc a few days later.

What is happening is pretty much as to be expected , the best young players are chinese and the lower ranks of the pro game will increasingly become more and more chinese which will slowly rise higher up the rankings , look at jamie wilson , sean maddocks and dean young , three new british players on two year cards and you can barely find a win out of them in two years , they dont win many frames either , no disrespect intended its just the way it is , contrast that to the chinese , pang junxu , gao yang , zhao jianbo , wu yize , lei peifan , better more rounded players because they come out of a stronger amateur system.

Need to find some streams for chinese billiards and snooker association cbsa events , can’t get qiuw.com to work anymore.

[Danger Steve]

Always baffles me how little non-thinkers actually think. But hey, they're getting their moment to shine, surely feels smart. Hail to the interwebs!

Who are you referring to here mate?

[neuronic]

Who are you referring to here mate?

To anybody, Steve... we all have our moments

[Danger Steve]

To anybody, Steve... we all have our moments

Well everyone has their own opinions.. Who knows what all the answers are? Not me. But I do know about snooker tables! Lol

[itsnoteasy]

Gary Wilson played in our comp, the tables will be really poor compared to his star table set up he has. Club balls light white, worst table in the place, result.... 147 break...... if you can play you can play.

[fkhan]

Gary Wilson played in our comp, the tables will be really poor compared to his star table set up he has. Club balls light white, worst table in the place, result.... 147 break...... if you can play you can play.

Must be great to see pro's play. We could pick up a trick or two.

[Danger Steve]

Must be great to see pro's play. We could pick up a trick or two.

It’s not always the pro’s though! I played Dharminder Singh in Saturday’s Pro-Am. He broke off in the first frame, I missed a long red and he then cleared the table with a 128 break! Unbelievable to watch! Final frame went a similar way only this time it was an 83 or 85? Needless to say I had my arse handed to me 4-0 in the space of about 45mins! Game over, on my way home… Loved it!

[mikee]

That must have been a Star table with heated and un level cheap slates and a tv pro lighting rig with a brand new no 10 cloth then Steve ,as no one makes breaks and scores like that on a club table ,it just doesn’t happen

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Gary Wilson played in our comp, the tables will be really poor compared to his star table set up he has. Club balls light white, worst table in the place, result.... 147 break...... if you can play you can play.

Hi mate i remember you replying to me a while ago about the lack of new players and i think particularly new english players at the q school , i know gary wilson’s a good player and i quite enjoy watching him play with his confident approach and good all round game , someone else on here made a similar post i think about graeme dott making two successive 147’s on a club table with a light white , we could go round this in circles for years all that matters in relation to getting the numbers up at the q school is an all round game on good tables.

wilson from what you said has his own set up anyway so it isnt really a big deal then if he plays on other tables as he’s still got his own set up to prep him up for pro tournaments , likewise dott has a set up with higgins and maguire , so nothing overly enlightening to see there , peace.

[itsnoteasy]

Hi mate i remember you replying to me a while ago about the lack of new players and i think particularly new english players at the q school , i know gary wilson’s a good player and i quite enjoy watching him play with his confident approach and good all round game , someone else on here made a similar post i think about graeme dott making two successive 147’s on a club table with a light white , we could go round this in circles for years all that matters in relation to getting the numbers up at the q school is an all round game on good tables.

wilson from what you said has his own set up anyway so it isnt really a big deal then if he plays on other tables as he’s still got his own set up to prep him up for pro tournaments , likewise dott has a set up with higgins and maguire , so nothing overly enlightening to see there , peace.

Dott isn't in with Higgins and Maguire, that's McGill. I think Dott has his table at his house. The point I'm trying to make is, you don't need perfect conditions to play the game, if you can play the game. If pros can knock in these breaks on club tables, they sure as hell are good enough for the rest of us. Most if not all of them in this country will have started out in everyday clubs, if you have the talent you will come through with lots of hard work, unfortunately most of us don't.
The only reason there are no players coming through is because hardly anyone plays snooker now, it's a numbers game, how we change that, I haven't a clue, I wish I did.

[itsnoteasy]

Must be great to see pro's play. We could pick up a trick or two.

Different class watching them, I'll be honest I was a bit star struck when I first entered comps with pros entered. That soon gets knocked out of you after a few good beatings lol. As Steve said though, there are some brilliant amateur and ex pro players from back in the day still kicking around that can do one visit frames every day of the week.

[fkhan]

Mink is the new world champ, she gets a 2 year pro card on the men's tour I think.

[trains]

Dott isn't in with Higgins and Maguire, that's McGill. I think Dott has his table at his house. The point I'm trying to make is, you don't need perfect conditions to play the game, if you can play the game. If pros can knock in these breaks on club tables, they sure as hell are good enough for the rest of us. Most if not all of them in this country will have started out in everyday clubs, if you have the talent you will come through with lots of hard work, unfortunately most of us don't.
The only reason there are no players coming through is because hardly anyone plays snooker now, it's a numbers game, how we change that, I haven't a clue, I wish I did.

Its more than a numbers game though , you need a good all round game and familiarity on good tables , fraser patrick is a good example of a good all round player , the reason he qualified from q school last may / june was hes got a good tactical all round game and familiarity with a good temperament , hes been in and around the pro tour since 2007 , that experience is huge , of course scoring is important but its like people never catch on obsessed with centuries like groundhog day.

I asked world snooker ref paul collier once about introducing more pro - ams , he said there was a sponsorship problem , tbh i didn’t really believe him i suspect they just like to keep it exclusive.

[MrRottweiler]

Just saw the final and Neil really is a class act. Anyone who thinks heckling him is going to make him play worse obviously doesn't know what kind of player Neil is. Glad to see him comment on the 'now missing' person in the audience and how they were quietly removed off camera. The drunken idiot sealed their fate when Jan told them to be quiet but they had to get a few more shouts in.

Jan speaking out like that gave a long overdue message that no other current ref would have said. Make an occasion of it with a few drinks but always show respect to both players.

[Starsky]

Its more than a numbers game though , you need a good all round game and familiarity on good tables , fraser patrick is a good example of a good all round player , the reason he qualified from q school last may / june was hes got a good tactical all round game and familiarity with a good temperament , hes been in and around the pro tour since 2007 , that experience is huge , of course scoring is important but its like people never catch on obsessed with centuries like groundhog day.

I asked world snooker ref paul collier once about introducing more pro - ams , he said there was a sponsorship problem , tbh i didn’t really believe him i suspect they just like to keep it exclusive.

If you know your amateur game then you would know currently there are more pro ams than you can shake a stick at . In fact some of them are struggling to fill their quota of players especially if more than one event are held over the same weekend .
There has been a big push for more comps on the amateur circuit and it’s as strong as it’s been for many a year now .
The issue with lack of players coming through in the UK goes back to grass root level with clubs shutting and kids not wanting to take up the game.