2022 World Championship

[Mark187187]

Trump will be lucky to get 8 frames on the board. His whole game is under severe pressure and he's also looking jaded. Ronnie is in the form of his life, it's not even remotely a contest.

In fact if I was in judds position is be tempted to make up an excuse that he's unwell and hand it to him. You are not going to enjoy this situation and it could be more damaging for his career if he does end up on the wrong end of a drubbing.

Thought it was 3

[Starsky]

Trump will be lucky to get 8 frames on the board. His whole game is under severe pressure and he's also looking jaded. Ronnie is in the form of his life, it's not even remotely a contest.

In fact if I was in judds position is be tempted to make up an excuse that he's unwell and hand it to him. You are not going to enjoy this situation and it could be more damaging for his career if he does end up on the wrong end of a drubbing.

You’ve changed your tune, i thought it was three frames .

There you go , you’ve got a bite 🎣

[Cue crafty]

Trump will be lucky to get 8 frames on the board. His whole game is under severe pressure and he's also looking jaded. Ronnie is in the form of his life, it's not even remotely a contest.

In fact if I was in judds position is be tempted to make up an excuse that he's unwell and hand it to him. You are not going to enjoy this situation and it could be more damaging for his career if he does end up on the wrong end of a drubbing.

Well you just upped your quota by 5 frames so if you're going to give him the chance of another five frames a session it could well be 18-16....

[fkhan]

As they say, control the cue ball, control the game. If Judd does this, he could reach new heights.

[Odrl]

That has to be some jinx attempt, surely.

[fkhan]

That has to be some jinx attempt, surely.

Lol.If that was for me, surely not.

[Odrl]

Lol.If that was for me, surely not.

No, I meant the "Trump should concede the World final on the first day for some long-term damage limitation" post.

[fkhan]

No, I meant the "Trump should concede the World final on the first day for some long-term damage limitation" post.

Oh ok. Sorry about that

[cueman]

Not at all, I say it as I see it. I'm not trying jinxing or reverse psychology, judds done for. I do think in snooker the distance of these matches is often the biggest problem. I would say a good thing they could introduce is an option for a player to concede match of they fall too far behind.

I mean if Ronnie wins the remaining 5 frames and leads 13-4, what is the point in any player carrying on from that situation? It's not good for the audience, you are just delaying the inevitable, to use a boxing analogy, players should have option to throw in towel.
It's not good for your career to be on the end of a potential humiliating defeat, so being able to concede from an unwinnable position is the respectable outcome rather than have people rub in the scoreline.

[Odrl]

Right, quitting like the biggest loser ever is going to be great for your mental state the next time you reach the World final.

[Cue crafty]

Not at all, I say it as I see it. I'm not trying jinxing or reverse psychology, judds done for. I do think in snooker the distance of these matches is often the biggest problem. I would say a good thing they could introduce is an option for a player to concede match of they fall too far behind.

I mean if Ronnie wins the remaining 5 frames and leads 13-4, what is the point in any player carrying on from that situation? It's not good for the audience, you are just delaying the inevitable, to use a boxing analogy, players should have option to throw in towel.
It's not good for your career to be on the end of a potential humiliating defeat, so being able to concede from an unwinnable position is the respectable outcome rather than have people rub in the scoreline.

Yeah, tell that to Deontay Wilder, ask any sportsman would they take a chance if given one no matter how small and they would grab it with both hands.

[cueman]

Ronnie did it and one or two others have done it. Snooker is about mental state and it's a very harsh game. I'd feel zero shame in just conceding match and saying hands up your too good for me, rather than go through the torture of struggling to play on just because there is some sort gentlemanly rule that shouldn't be broken. It's bs.

It wasn't that long ago trump was talking about not enjoying the game, a lot of players have suffered depression from snooker, I'd rather put my health first than the BS of having to play to the rules.

[Cue crafty]

Ronnie did it and one or two others have done it. Snooker is about mental state and it's a very harsh game. I'd feel zero shame in just conceding match and saying hands up your too good for me, rather than go through the torture of struggling to play on just because there is some sort gentlemanly rule that shouldn't be broken. It's bs.

Then you will never learn stamina, determination , guts and heart, they come from losses and teach you lessons about yourself and how you can improve and become better. Quitting is for quitters...

[cueman]

Then you will never learn stamina, determination , guts and heart, they come from losses and teach you lessons about yourself and how you can improve and become better. Quitting is for quitters...

So how did it affect Ronnie when he did it those years ago?


As for quitters talk, that's just people trying to think it's macho to not give up. However I will counter that by again using boxing analogy, the reason you throw towel in is to save yourself. Trump will not benefit from a heavy loss, the opposite is true. However accepting you can't come back, you are protecting yourself from humiliation and that is better for your mental well-being.

Trump is in a bad place right now, as Willie thorne said the crucible is a ****ing nightmare when you are gone, I'd rather get out of there than suffer this.

[DeanH]

Up and down or to the side cushion , what’s your go to shot ?

I try up and down (old school)
usually end up in the middle of the table