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  • Originally Posted by fkhan View Post

    He beat Hendry 17-4 in 2004 IIRC. I did not see that match. Was Hendry having the yips then?
    Don't know about the yips, but it was the season his cue was broken

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    • Hendry played crap, that much is true, but O'Sullivan's scoring was pretty relentless. It wasn't one of those matches where he is giving a bunch of chances to the opponent and the opponent is just not taking them.

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      • Originally Posted by fkhan View Post

        He beat Hendry 17-4 in 2004 IIRC. I did not see that match. Was Hendry having the yips then?
        where do you get the terms ' unplayable ' and the ' yips ' from ? its best to just watch matches for yourself and not rely on what anyone else said.
        ask graeme dott at the uk championship in 2006 if hendry was ' done and dusted '.

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        • There are parallels between Ronnie and Lewis Hamilton , both have 7 WC and both have the greatest number of wins in their respective sports . Both crave an 8th title . I would give Ronnie a better chance of gaining his 8 th title. .

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          • Originally Posted by trains View Post

            where do you get the terms ' unplayable ' and the ' yips ' from ? its best to just watch matches for yourself and not rely on what anyone else said.
            ask graeme dott at the uk championship in 2006 if hendry was ' done and dusted '.
            Can't remember where I heard yips exactly. Probably some interviews. It was a long time ago.

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            • Originally Posted by Mark187187 View Post

              Don't know about the yips, but it was the season his cue was broken
              Nice avatar BTW.

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              • Originally Posted by trains View Post

                do you have access to the bbc i player ? i dont have a licence and cant be arsed to sign in , if you rerun those last few minutes i'm pretty sure its him django fung.jpg
                You're right this is Django. But I saw another Chinese guy, O'Sullivan caught the attention of the security guard and let this fat, balding Chinese man into the main arena. I thought he was talking about him.

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                • Originally Posted by trains View Post

                  where do you get the terms ' unplayable ' and the ' yips ' from ? its best to just watch matches for yourself and not rely on what anyone else said.
                  ask graeme dott at the uk championship in 2006 if hendry was ' done and dusted '.
                  Hendry mentioned the yips himself ,it was a fast decline for him from the early 2000’s ,he did win the Malta cup in 2005 but that was it ,Ebdon knocked the stuffing out of him in 2002 by winning the World title .Hendry’s decline started before his cue was Broken ,the hours of practice he put in went out the window too ,as did Ian Doyle’s interest in Hendry and snooker due to personal reasons .No need to ask Graeme Dott as Hendry mentions it all in his book ,which is a pretty good read .

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                  • Originally Posted by mikee View Post

                    Hendry mentioned the yips himself ,it was a fast decline for him from the early 2000’s ,he did win the Malta cup in 2005 but that was it ,Ebdon knocked the stuffing out of him in 2002 by winning the World title .Hendry’s decline started before his cue was Broken ,the hours of practice he put in went out the window too ,as did Ian Doyle’s interest in Hendry and snooker due to personal reasons .No need to ask Graeme Dott as Hendry mentions it all in his book ,which is a pretty good read .

                    Hendry’s lack of success in the millennium imo was largely down to there simply being more potential tournament winners in the noughties than the nineties , he won the welsh open in 2003 , was a narrow losing quarter finalist in it the following year and a narrow losing finalist in it the year after that so personally i dont see why the 02 crucible loss to ebdon would have had any affect , i dont take much notice of snooker media anyway , its the same body thats been a long term employer of david hendon , phil studd and rob walker , but each to their own.

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                    • I would rather believe what Hendry said himself ,nothing to do with more tournament winners ,the so called class of 92 had been around a long time by then anyway .Hendry set a standard that was going to be hard to keep up ,ruling a decade probably was about as much as anyone could do ,motivation will eventually wane .Anyone that watched snooker at the turn of the century could plainly see Hendry was not the player he was .After a few losses the doubts crept in and his game went south .Ronnie never dominated a long time period ,he was sketchy in and out of form with a great B game ,probably why he's still around today ,as unlike Hendry he probably didn't or doesn't need 8 hours of practice a day ,no one can keep that up for long .Wish I never read Hendry's book now ,its obviously total bollox .

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                      • Originally Posted by balkend View Post
                        There are parallels between Ronnie and Lewis Hamilton , both have 7 WC and both have the greatest number of wins in their respective sports . Both crave an 8th title . I would give Ronnie a better chance of gaining his 8 th title. .
                        Hamilton relies on technology and if Mercedes create a better machine he will win again but not before unless he goes elsewhere.
                        I remember Valentino Rossi jumping ship from Honda to Yamaha and winning the title saying it was the rider not the machine that mattered, despite the fact that Yamaha had built a completely new machine for that season and giving Rossi exclusive number one rider status that he didn't get at Honda and a personal contract with Michelin that meant he got tyres especially made for him. When he jumped ship from Yamaha to Ducati it didn't work out the same, wobbling around at the back of the pack in pre season testing on a bike that Casey Stoner was winning and setting lap records on.

                        Hey but maybe Parris created and gave Ronnie that special cue that he wouldn't allow anyone else to have, the one with inbuilt cue ball control
                        Speak up, you've got to speak up against the madness, you've got speak your mind if you dare
                        but don't try to get yourself elected, for if you do you'll have to cut your hair

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                        • Originally Posted by mikee View Post
                          I would rather believe what Hendry said himself ,nothing to do with more tournament winners ,the so called class of 92 had been around a long time by then anyway .Hendry set a standard that was going to be hard to keep up ,ruling a decade probably was about as much as anyone could do ,motivation will eventually wane .Anyone that watched snooker at the turn of the century could plainly see Hendry was not the player he was .After a few losses the doubts crept in and his game went south .Ronnie never dominated a long time period ,he was sketchy in and out of form with a great B game ,probably why he's still around today ,as unlike Hendry he probably didn't or doesn't need 8 hours of practice a day ,no one can keep that up for long .Wish I never read Hendry's book now ,its obviously total bollox .
                          Ronnie had a real problem wondering why he couldn't be on top form all the time, couldn't seem to grasp that those somewhat fleeting moments for us mere mortals that were with him for most of the time would sometimes dissapear into the ether.
                          Ray Reardon and Steve Peters sorted him out giving him a great safety game and a mental attitude that meant he could accept his shortcomings and go about it a different way when needs must, otherwise he would have gone down in flames like Tony Drago and we wouldn't be talking about him right now.
                          Speak up, you've got to speak up against the madness, you've got speak your mind if you dare
                          but don't try to get yourself elected, for if you do you'll have to cut your hair

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                          • Originally Posted by vmax View Post

                            Hamilton relies on technology and if Mercedes create a better machine he will win again but not before unless he goes elsewhere.
                            I remember Valentino Rossi jumping ship from Honda to Yamaha and winning the title saying it was the rider not the machine that mattered, despite the fact that Yamaha had built a completely new machine for that season and giving Rossi exclusive number one rider status that he didn't get at Honda and a personal contract with Michelin that meant he got tyres especially made for him. When he jumped ship from Yamaha to Ducati it didn't work out the same, wobbling around at the back of the pack in pre season testing on a bike that Casey Stoner was winning and setting lap records on.

                            Hey but maybe Parris created and gave Ronnie that special cue that he wouldn't allow anyone else to have, the one with inbuilt cue ball control
                            LOL

                            Even if Merc cure the porpoise effect this year its already too late by Hamiltons own admission. Russell is blossoming all the time too and will be an even bigger threat next year . Yeah Vale was completely at sea on that Ducati , Dobbi came closest to emulating Stoner but not strong enough to secure a WC . John Parris must have given Ronnie something special !! fashioned from a Harry Potter wand

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                            • Originally Posted by balkend View Post

                              John Parris must have given Ronnie something special !! fashioned from a Harry Potter wand
                              The cue Ronnie is using now, I believe is the longest time he's stuck with a cue in his pro career. Pretty sure he had this current Parris at the start of the 2010 season after trying out various cues for a couple of seasons following the year he gave his old Parris cue away to the young lad in the audience in the 2006. So he's had this cue now some 12 years, I'm surprised its still playable given the amount of abuse it must have suffered all that time!!!

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                              • Originally Posted by cueman View Post

                                it felt really uncomfortable, I think Ronnie did all that for his documentary, the need to go over and be talking, that will have all been pre planned.

                                It's been overlooked but the fact he's been filming a doc during this has probably helped him approach this in a more relaxed way. From the incidents with crowd members, refs and other bits, it's felt like a staged performance which is why he was able to detach himself from the game and play like it was practice.
                                it wouldn't surprise me if he realises that had benefitted him that he may try this for other events as it takes the pressure off it being about just getting the result.
                                I think you may have HtNotH here! There was something definitely ‘off’ in his semi-final with JH - an aggression and atmosphere that on reflection seemed dramatised. Apparently RO has said “What he [Trump] said to me blew me away actually...” but he then won’t reveal what was said.

                                Yes, I strongly suspect all this will end up in the documentary, and is the reason RO acted up like he did (arguments with the ref, punching the table, banging his cue etc etc).
                                Last edited by Billy; 4 May 2022, 02:45 PM.
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