Big pockets

[nrage]

Might observation is still the same, nrage if you read my post correctly and understand the game you would understand the point i was making

I understand what you're saying, and your point is perfectly valid, as it stands, by itself, however it's just not relevant to the comments I (we) made because you're talking about something slightly different, that's what I'm trying to tell you. You're either miss-understanding what we're trying to say, or you just want to say something else - which is fine. I just wanted to clarify that I (we) were not saying, what you're suggesting we're saying. In short, you've erected a strawman, and you're bashing it .. but we're not even in the same field .. so you're pertty much bashing away all by yourself.

[nrage]

There is an under lining tone to his reply s that makes him sound like a big headed pr** what the hell has my cue to do with the thread his remarks were intended to be little me he can shove it where the sun don't shine.

I didn't like the tone either, but I don't think he was attacking you/me. I think he just miss understood what we were saying. There is no doubt he can play the game (I have it from Terry who gave him some coaching around the time I had some) but he's missing the point in this case IMO.

[cazmac1]

maybe my reply's have been a bit OTT so for that I apologize but I do think the guy should give some more thought to what he is saying before posting. He could have made his point with referring to me or my cue.
As far as I'm concerned the matter is closed.

[culraven]

i love these little cat fights, think we should start a roast forum for us all to let off a little steam, any volunteers to go first?

[cazmac1]

I thought I just put out that fire and you want to start it again. lol

[culraven]

my wife turned the snooker off so i have to entertain myself some how?

[cazmac1]

Been there done that.

[Manu147]

I am here to apologise for bein a decent snooker player, and for denting any obvious egos!

[PatBlock]

my wife turned the snooker off so i have to entertain myself some how?

You could spend the time looking for a decent divorce lawyer.

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[culraven]

bit harsh, she's let me put it back on now she's gone to make my tea so i can't complain too much!

[gem]

I think the tables look to be very tight. You can see when the ball sits in the jaw and there is not much room either side.
I have played in some really old tables over the years and one that I play on just now is very tight up the cushion.

I think the main problem with many of the older club tables is how the cushions are cut into the corners. The one I play on just now is almost impossible to pot up the rail with any pace as the cut is not as rounded as the Star tables. This tends to push the ball away when it hits it rather than gather the ball. Straight on they are fine and measure around the same width opening as the template that was going around the forum a while ago but it is not as rounded.

I think this is what gives the impression that these are a bit generous when they are actually quite narrow.

[Deepscrew]

I beleive the same Gem. The cut of the cushions is the main thing thats different to most tables us minions play on.

[cazmac1]

I think the tables look to be very tight. You can see when the ball sits in the jaw and there is not much room either side.
I have played in some really old tables over the years and one that I play on just now is very tight up the cushion.

I think the main problem with many of the older club tables is how the cushions are cut into the corners. The one I play on just now is almost impossible to pot up the rail with any pace as the cut is not as rounded as the Star tables. This tends to push the ball away when it hits it rather than gather the ball. Straight on they are fine and measure around the same width opening as the template that was going around the forum a while ago but it is not as rounded.

I think this is what gives the impression that these are a bit generous when they are actually quite narrow.

I think this is a good assessment of what is going on and echo's what other poster have put up. This is my view too the shape the pocket plus the slide of the new cloth means if you get the ball in the jaws of the pocket at a reasonable speed the ball is drawn in unlike most club tables where the ball gets trapped in the under cut and this causes the ball to move sideways or backwards.
In all the years I've been playing snooker I've never understood the idea of the under cut of the pocket because it just don't work. If you want to make the pocket bigger on a club table why can't the opening on the rail be designed bigger to allow a normal shaped pocket?

[gb147]

hi the main problem is the pocket design and shape /slate fall /pocket plate type will be very differant to the untrained eye when comparing a modern match table to a 40/100 year old club table when i fitted tables for thurstons/rileys i used to describe it as comparing a mki escort to a modeo most club tables have a pocket opening of 3 5/8 th across the fall sometimes even bigger
pro tables have an opening of 3 3/8th the big differance is pro pockets stay same opening from fall to pocket plate
old tables tend to go narrower from front to back , hope this helps people understand a bit

[cazmac1]

hi the main problem is the pocket design and shape /slate fall /pocket plate type will be very differant to the untrained eye when comparing a modern match table to a 40/100 year old club table when i fitted tables for thurstons/rileys i used to describe it as comparing a mki escort to a modeo most club tables have a pocket opening of 3 5/8 th across the fall sometimes even bigger
pro tables have an opening of 3 3/8th the big differance is pro pockets stay same opening from fall to pocket plate
old tables tend to go narrower from front to back , hope this helps people understand a bit

I sort of know what your saying but I have to ask iyo do match table pockets take the ball better than a club table with a similar size pocket