UK Championship 2013/2014

[itsnoteasy]

Play the video, stop at 5.12 drag back to 2.07 you can then go back and forward with the slider to get the two positions, I think the white is very very slightly left of its original position as well as being closer to the blue, but without tv help this is a very good attempt at getting it right, CHEAT , is a terrible word to throw at someone, and I can not for the life of me see any cheating going on here, the player has a discussion with the ref about the set up, which is normal , the final set up is checked with both players as far as I know , and both seemed happy with it, otherwise the other player had every right to question it, which he didn't,the ref seemed happy, and he could have overridden any protest by either player, but he didn't, so I fail to see why this is even questioned.
On second look I'm not sure the white is further out lol, that's how close it is.

[jw147]

Delighted jimmy won, anyone have any idea the last time he was on bbc in ranking event?? Playing bingham on sunday now, hopefully will be televised.

[ADR147]

If the balls aint in the right position its expected that the players help to get balls back in the right positions, thats all ants was doing!

you would expect nothing less - i think if i were accused of cheating for that i would be knocking on your door!

[itsnoteasy]

and yeah I did get a bit carried away. I am not convinced that it was all clean but on a second thought I am not convinced otherwise either. Therefore, I offer my apologies to Mr. Mcgill publicly. I am sorry for being trigger happy but next time let the ref do his job.

Nice one Brusque, we all make mistakes , credit for apologising .

[AntMac147]

Brusque I shall tell you exactly what happened. My intended shot was swerve around the blue, thin clip the yellow and get distance between the balls. The first shot I was miles out. It ain't the first howler I've played and it sure won't be the last. The referee put the black tight behind the yellow, I said to him that in the original shot the yellow could pass the black into the pocket, I then thought the white was closer to the blue on the second shot because I felt as though I was stretching further down the table than I was in the original shot, so I was asking the ref to bring the white closer to baulk. You're bang out of order. What about the green Ali Carter missed at the CoC? Or the black off the spot that Bingham missed in the same event? Are pros never to make errors? I practice on a pretty bad cloth, then I go to proper tables and I'm supposed to be nailing horrible swerve shots 100/100?? If I catch the yellow thick in any way, combined with check side, both balls stay down the black end and in all likelihood I'm 4-1 down. I NEED a thin connection on the yellow so obviously I overcompensated. Overcompensation + misjudgment = a howler. You don't understand what pros are thinking when they are out there. You don't understand the intricacies of shots like that one. Unbelievable.

[ADR147]

Did you even watch what really happened?? Mcgill cheated big time period

yes i have - do you play the game? he clearly intended to swerve the first time hence all the left hand side he just hit it a bit hard, i would have been surprised if he had not hit it second time, the mistake was wilson having it put back i would have played the yellow up and down.

[ADR147]

sorry just noticed ant has replied himself - good luck in the next round sir.

[ADR147]

Nice one Brusque, we all make mistakes , credit for apologising .

that is not my idea of an apology!

[brusque]

Fair enough mate. I already apologized to you but I am sorry again. My assumption was that you played two different shots and I could not quite digest that you could be this off when attempting a direct swerve on the first attempt (and the screen was quite small to be sure). Having seen the balls on the video again and again, I am reasonable sure that you never needed to play off the cushion and it was indeed a howler. Anyway I apologized ... what more you want me to do now?

Brusque I shall tell you exactly what happened. My intended shot was swerve around the blue, thin clip the yellow and get distance between the balls. The first shot I was miles out. It ain't the first howler I've played and it sure won't be the last. The referee put the black tight behind the yellow, I said to him that in the original shot the yellow could pass the black into the pocket, I then thought the white was closer to the blue on the second shot because I felt as though I was stretching further down the table than I was in the original shot, so I was asking the ref to bring the white closer to baulk. You're bang out of order. What about the green Ali Carter missed at the CoC? Or the black off the spot that Bingham missed in the same event? Are pros never to make errors? I practice on a pretty bad cloth, then I go to proper tables and I'm supposed to be nailing horrible swerve shots 100/100?? If I catch the yellow thick in any way, combined with check side, both balls stay down the black end and in all likelihood I'm 4-1 down. I NEED a thin connection on the yellow so obviously I overcompensated. Overcompensation + misjudgment = a howler. You don't understand what pros are thinking when they are out there. You don't understand the intricacies of shots like that one. Unbelievable.

[AntMac147]

sorry just noticed ant has replied himself - good luck in the next round sir.

Thanks ADR.

[AntMac147]

I don't want anything off you. I've had to explain myself for someone who I don't even know who can just type libellous accusations and think it's alright to do so. Think before you type next time.

[brusque]

You did not have to. Next time spend your time and energy wisely.

I don't want anything off you. I've had to explain myself for someone who I don't even know who can just type libellous accusations and think it's alright to do so. Think before you type next time.

[j6uk]

you said it once in another post, so maybe stop saying sorry. ant ain't a snooker god

Anyway I apologized ... what more you want me to do now?

[AntMac147]

I did have to. Someone's accusing me of cheating and you think I don't have to say anything? Of course I do. I've explained what happened, that's me finished here.

[DeanH]

UK Championship 2013/2014

AntMac - did you see the other thread dedicated to the incidence with the Chinese lad who nominated pink and went for blue. when the post from brusque appeared I think it was met with disbelief.
thanks for the explanation and best of luck in this and many more tournaments.