China Open 2014 - Discussion

[jb134]

Somebody has to tho and go home with no money after forking out a fortune for air fares and living expenses.

Same as the rest of us, if you can't afford the bus fare, you can't go to work.

[cyberheater]

I think we're about to see another shocker with Alan Duffy knocking out Shaun Murphy.

EDIT: Shaun just scrapped through by the skin of his teeth. Duffy was extremely close to bagging a major scalp.

[Bigmeek]

Same as the rest of us, if you can't afford the bus fare, you can't go to work.

Well I suppose that's the harsh economic fact but I think it's a real shame that World Snooker can't afford to have a system that allows all 128 professionals to get to work. Doesn't seem like a lot to ask for what is becoming a global sport. Maybe that's the way it is. I'd like to know how much the number 128 in golf or tennis earns? In football there's loads of money sloshing around providing high wages for mediocre players but no-one seems to want to put any money into snooker.
I hope Barry Hearn can do something for snooker. My dream is that the sport grows big enough to provide good incomes for twice as many professionals. Big ask I suppose.

[jb134]

Well I suppose that's the harsh economic fact but I think it's a real shame that World Snooker can't afford to have a system that allows all 128 professionals to get to work. Doesn't seem like a lot to ask for what is becoming a global sport. Maybe that's the way it is. I'd like to know how much the number 128 in golf or tennis earns? In football there's loads of money sloshing around providing high wages for mediocre players but no-one seems to want to put any money into snooker.
I hope Barry Hearn can do something for snooker. My dream is that the sport grows big enough to provide good incomes for twice as many professionals. Big ask I suppose.

Yes, that would be lovely. I think the sport will grow big enough in time. Particularly now that the Far East is involved.

As it is just now, if people choose to turn "pro" at a game where about 32 people can make a living then be in that 32 or find a sponsor/wife/whatever.

[cyberheater]

Yes, that would be lovely. I think the sport will grow big enough in time. Particularly now that the Far East is involved.

As it is just now, if people choose to turn "pro" at a game where about 32 people can make a living then be in that 32 or find a sponsor/wife/whatever.

If you look at the prize money pdf here:-

http://www.worldsnooker.com/staticFi...~180312,00.pdf

You can see that at least 72 professionals have earned more then 30k. Not too bad for playing something you love and of course a lot of them will have additional sponsorship and other money opportunities.

[Bigmeek]

Cyber heater, are those figures for 1 or 2 years? I thought it was 2. You're right that getting paid for doing something you love doing is Utopia but someone has to pay the bills!

[jb134]

If you look at the prize money pdf here:-

http://www.worldsnooker.com/staticFi...~180312,00.pdf

You can see that at least 72 professionals have earned more then 30k. Not too bad for playing something you love and of course a lot of them will have additional sponsorship and other money opportunities.

I'm not sure how much of the 30k will go on expenses (China open etc), entries and such but you can take a few quid off the 30k. Depends what you define as "making a living" I suppose and yes, it's better than picking litter (which I have done) but a sportsmans income is a slice of the pie available in that sport and if it's a small sport it's a small pie sliced thinly.

[cyberheater]

Cyber heater, are those figures for 1 or 2 years? I thought it was 2. You're right that getting paid for doing something you love doing is Utopia but someone has to pay the bills!

To be honest. I don't know if its two years or not. The PDF doesn't say?

[jb134]

Cyber heater, are those figures for 1 or 2 years? I thought it was 2. You're right that getting paid for doing something you love doing is Utopia but someone has to pay the bills!

Ronnies on £315k, has he not won the last two worlds @ £250k a time?

I'd take it it must be 1 year. But then £500k seems a lot for Robbo?

[Byrom]

This is a two year list. Good money for the elite but tough for many others.

Pay a grand for Q school you get a tour card and a bill for the 20 odd k it costs to enter everything minus the hotels and the travel on top of this along with your normal living expense - coaching management and tax bill not to mention the cut world snooker take from your winings if you do win anything -

Dont sound fun to me - its not all about the talent either - you need a backer/sponsor and time to develop. I actually feel for these guys- Great game if you keep it a hobby - soul destroying for many others.

[cyberheater]

This is a two year list. Good money for the elite but tough for many others.

Pay a grand for Q school you get a tour card and a bill for the 20 odd k it costs to enter everything minus the hotels and the travel on top of this along with your normal living expense - coaching management and tax bill not to mention the cut world snooker take from your winings if you do win anything -

Dont sound fun to me - its not all about the talent either - you need a backer/sponsor and time to develop. I actually feel for these guys- Great game if you keep it a hobby - soul destroying for many others.

I think its £600 and entry to all the European Tours events are free. Still. It's not going to be cheap with hotels etc... as you said.

[Bigmeek]

Ronnies on £315k, has he not won the last two worlds @ £250k a time?
I'd take it it must be 1 year. But then £500k seems a lot for Robbo?

Yeah, numbers look bit odd. Maybe Dean will come on and clarify. He knows everything! Lol.

[cyberheater]

Looks like Trump is teaching Slessor how to play snooker at the moment. It's 3 - 0 and Trump looks in great form.

[DeanH]

Yeah, numbers look bit odd. Maybe Dean will come on and clarify. He knows everything! Lol.

thanks for the vote of confidence but, no :redface:

but to continue, see
http://www.worldsnooker.com/page/Wor...216576,00.html

"This list shows the prize money earned by Tour players during the 2012-2013 season in those tournaments which determine the prize money based rankings list, as well as prize money earned by Tour Players in the 2013-2014 season so far. Those players who joined the Tour at the start of the 2013-2014 season started this season on zero pounds."
so the money list essentially covers 1.5 seasons so far

[Bigmeek]

Thanks Dean, think that explains Ronnie's winnings. Only 1 WC cheque for £250k plus some other odds and sods.