China Open 2014 - Discussion

[cyberheater]

Dean/Cyber: Did he or anyone else mention what was wrong with him the last time... some sort of virus?.

I never did find out. I remember the commentators saying in the last tournament that Robbo didn't look well. I guess if he hadn't had been knocked out then we would have known more.

[Where's Willie?]

I never did find out. I remember the commentators saying in the last tournament that Robbo didn't look well. I guess if he hadn't had been knocked out then we would have known more.

On Neil's twitter after today's match he said if he'd known his virus was this bad he probably wouldn't have got on the plane.
Doesn't say what the virus is but I'm guessing a heavy cold or flu. If it was anything more serious than that he surely wouldn't have travelled.
Fair play to him for making the effort anyway, unlike some of the players this week!!

[Billy]

I have no delusions that it will be anything other than short-lived, but it was nice to see Jimmy coming through as winner today.

[cyberheater]

On Neil's twitter after today's match he said if he'd known his virus was this bad he probably wouldn't have got on the plane.
Doesn't say what the virus is but I'm guessing a heavy cold or flu. If it was anything more serious than that he surely wouldn't have travelled.
Fair play to him for making the effort anyway, unlike some of the players this week!!

Thanks for the update. Traveling on a long flight is no fun with a cold/flu.

I have no delusions that it will be anything other than short-lived, but it was nice to see Jimmy coming through as winner today.

He played well in patches but still misses the odd unexpected ball. If he could cut down the errors then he'd do well.

[DeanH]

On Neil's twitter after today's match he said if he'd known his virus was this bad he probably wouldn't have got on the plane.
Doesn't say what the virus is but I'm guessing a heavy cold or flu. If it was anything more serious than that he surely wouldn't have travelled.
Fair play to him for making the effort anyway, unlike some of the players this week!!

Thanks for the update. Traveling on a long flight is no fun with a cold/flu.

I have no delusions that it will be anything other than short-lived, but it was nice to see Jimmy coming through as winner today.

He played well in patches but still misses the odd unexpected ball. If he could cut down the errors then he'd do well.

NR: I think it could be a stomach bug from the way he looked, not nice to travel with as you say.
JW: he needs a good run to stay on the tour I believe. would be good to see

[DeanH]

China Open 2014 - Discussion

what was nice today was British Eurosport stayed with the snooker when other programmes where scheduled, thanks

[cyberheater]

I liked the bit where Jimmy White was teaching the ref about the miss rule relative to requiring snookers. He still didn't get it.

[Billy]

He played well in patches but still misses the odd unexpected ball. If he could cut down the errors then he'd do well.

Yes, you can't get away with the kind of loose play we used to see in the 80s. Players just didn't punish their opponents like they do nowadays.

I liked the bit where Jimmy White was teaching the ref about the miss rule relative to requiring snookers. He still didn't get it.

Yeah, a combination of the ref simply not knowing the rules and maybe a slight language barrier when Jimmy was trying to explain.

[Billy]

Just out of curiosity, does the table cloth look turquoise to anyone else? I'm not sure if it's the broadcast quality, but there seems to be something slightly off with the colour.

[DeanH]

China Open 2014 - Discussion

the Chinese broadcasts can be a bit off with colour, I must be getting used to it as I don't notice any more

[motorhead]

I liked the bit where Jimmy White was teaching the ref about the miss rule relative to requiring snookers. He still didn't get it.

ahah what.... too bad I missed this.

[Billy]

the Chinese broadcasts can be a bit off with colour, I must be getting used to it as I don't notice any more

Well Eurosport have shown their fair share of these Asian tournies now and it's the first time I've noticed it. Maybe my telly's going home :ambivalence:

[DeanH]

China Open 2014 - Discussion

if your tv is anything like mine then every now and then it decides to go back to default settings - terrible
when we first got it I used a snooker match to config the screen

[Gerry Armstrong]

I liked the bit where Jimmy White was teaching the ref about the miss rule relative to requiring snookers. He still didn't get it.

Jimmy and the commentators were all wrong and the referee was correct.

He CAN call a miss in that circumstance as the player wasn't snookered...

14. Foul and a Miss
The striker shall, to the best of his ability, endeavour to hit the ball on. If
the referee considers the Rule infringed, he shall call FOUL AND A MISS
unless only the Black remains on the table, or a situation exists where it
is impossible to hit the ball on. In the latter case it must be assumed the
striker is attempting to hit the ball on provided that he plays, directly or
indirectly, at the ball on with sufficient strength, in the referee’s opinion, to
have reached the ball on but for the obstructing ball or balls.
(a) After a Foul and a Miss has been called, the next player may request
the offender to play again from the position left or, at his discretion,
from the original position, in which latter case the ball on shall be the
same as it was prior to the last stroke made, namely:
(i) any Red, where Red was the ball on;
(ii) the colour on, where all Reds were off the table; or
(iii) a colour of the striker’s choice, where the ball on was a colour
after a Red had been potted.
(b) If the striker, in making a stroke, fails to first hit a ball on when there is a
clear path in a straight line from the cue-ball to any part of any ball that
is or could be on, the referee shall call FOUL AND A MISS, unless:
(i) any player needed penalty points before, or as a result of, the
stroke being played; (see (b) (ii))
(ii) before or after the stroke, the points available on the table are
equal to the points difference excluding the value of the re-spotted
black;
and the referee is satisfied that the miss was not intentional.
(c) After a miss has been called under paragraph (b) above when there
was a clear path in a straight line from the cue-ball to a ball that was
on or that could have been on, such that central, full-ball, contact was
available (in the case of Reds, this to be taken as a full diameter of any
Red that is not obstructed by a colour), then:
(i) a further failure to first hit a ball on in making a stroke from the
same position shall be called as a FOUL AND A MISS regardless
of the difference in scores;
(ii) if asked to play again from the original position, the offender shall
be warned by the referee that a third failure will result in the frame
being awarded to his opponent; and
(iii) if asked to play again from a different position, the Foul and a Miss
situation starts again.

[DeanH]

China Open 2014 - Discussion

not sure as I didn't see the Jimmy White match but from my reading the scenario was not that the player was snookered or not but that a player needed snookers, ie the difference in scores was more than available on the table.